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To: Mad Dawg; Alamo-Girl; Blogger; Buggman; DarthVader

Will prayerfully ponder your thoughtful exhortation more.

My initial response is that there's entirely far too much thin skinned pride and brittleness in most RELIGIOUS circles and discussions.

Christ sliced through such rather brazenly, typically, and usually the slice was kattywumpus to what others would have predicted a slice should have been.

If something's not true--it's not true. It may be dramatically and horrendously and devastatingly not true--but it's just not true. I can treat it as just not true or I can get all energized about it not being true. My choice.

The same is true about whether I construe something as insulting, insufferable, blasphemous-to-me, an outrageous affront to my current most cherished icon or idol or champion; or whatever such. I choose the focus, the perspective and the attitude.

I could, imho, legitimately, Biblically be utterly outraged and foaming at the mouth ranting over every "MOTHER OF GOD" phrase I read hereon--because I see it as an outrageous TEN COMMANDMENT VIOLATING affront to my Lord Jesus The Christ. But I don't. I understand that for at least many RC folks, such is an aid, however mystifyingly to me, an aid instead of a violation in their Christian walk.

The obliviousness to the spiritual and Biblical hazard is beyond me, however--and one which I feel constrained in my mind and spirit to continue to pontificate about.

And, in my construction on reality, as long as my heart is right . . . lots of things are fair in love and war and religious 'dialogue' . . . exchanges, holding forths-ings . . . . . . . especially if there's a chance that something startling will provoke a new thought, a new perspective, a new openness to Holy Spirit's wooing and leading into all truth.

CHRIST WAS BRAZENLY AFFRONTIVE in most things He said--particularly to the religious pontificators of the day.

I'm happy to follow in His model, pattern, way.

however flawdly.


8,316 posted on 02/01/2007 10:00:53 AM PST by Quix (LET GOD ARISE & HIS ENEMIES BE 100% DONE-IN; & ISLAM & TRAITORS FLUSHED)
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To: Quix
So because Jesus and John called the Pharisees a viper's nest, it is somehow laudable for you to be insulting. Your spiritual walk involves and commends needlessly offending other people.

And it is commendable and a fruit of the Spirit to come into a thread and pretend to be about having a conversation or a debate when the real intention is to accuse and blame and offend? So Jesus lauds dishonesty as well as needless hostility.

And when you use offensive language with the intention of causing people to be offended and the targets of your abuse get offended it's their choice.

Wow.

8,320 posted on 02/01/2007 10:14:30 AM PST by Mad Dawg ("It's our humility which makes us great." -- Click and Clack, the Tappet Brothers)
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To: Quix

Theotokos,
Holy Mother of God,
Holy Virgin of virgins,
Mother of Christ,
Mother of the Church,
Mother of divine grace,
Mother most pure,
Mother most chaste,
Mother inviolate,
Mother undefiled,
Mother most amiable,
Mother most admirable,
Mother of good counsel,
Mother of our Creator,
Mother of our Savior,
Virgin most prudent,
Virgin most venerable,
Virgin most renowned,
Virgin most powerful,
Virgin most merciful,
Virgin most faithful,
Mirror of justice,
Seat of wisdom,
Cause of our joy,
Spiritual vessel,
Vessel of honor,
Singular vessel of devotion,
Mystical rose,
Tower of David,
Tower of ivory,
House of gold,
Ark of the covenant,
Gate of heaven,
Morning star,
Health of the sick,
Refuge of sinners,
Comforter of the afflicted,
Help of Christians,
Queen of angels,
Queen of patriarchs,
Queen of prophets,
Queen of apostles,
Queen of martyrs,
Queen of confessors,
Queen of virgins,
Queen of all saints,
Queen conceived without original sin,
Queen assumed into heaven,
Queen of the most holy Rosary,
Queen of families
Queen of peace.


8,328 posted on 02/01/2007 10:23:55 AM PST by kawaii (Orthodox Christianity -- Proclaiming the Truth Since 33 A.D.)
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To: Quix; Mad Dawg
Matthew 10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword. 35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.

Luke 12:51 Suppose ye that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, Nay; but rather division: 52 For from henceforth there shall be five in one house divided, three against two, and two against three. 53 The father shall be divided against the son, and the son against the father; the mother against the daughter, and the daughter against the mother; the mother in law against her daughter in law, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
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NOTE: the Spirit of Jesus was wise beyond words.. Semantics and Parseing Peace into Division and Parsing Division into Peace is wall against truth.. Because, There is a time to Divide and time for Peace.. The Holy Spirit will guide you into all truth.. which includes BOTH..

8,434 posted on 02/01/2007 11:37:22 AM PST by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole....)
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