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To: Quester
It is His desire that we know that we are His ... and that such knowledge is not at all presumptuous

That knowledge is a hope that we are His; being certain is presumptious.

8,234 posted on 01/31/2007 7:34:48 PM PST by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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To: kosta50; Quester

It really is a quite different view, radically different.

I think I could say for both the RC and EO that a clear indication someone is not a saint is that they claim to be.


8,236 posted on 01/31/2007 7:43:38 PM PST by D-fendr
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To: kosta50
It is His desire that we know that we are His ... and that such knowledge is not at all presumptuous.

That knowledge is a hope that we are His; being certain is presumptious.


I wouldn't call it being certain of oneself ... I rather see it as having faith in God ... to do what He's promised.
Hebrews 10:22 Let us draw near with a true heart in full assurance of faith, having our hearts sprinkled from an evil conscience, and our bodies washed with pure water.

23 Let us hold fast the profession of our faith without wavering; (for he is faithful that promised;)

8,290 posted on 02/01/2007 8:12:38 AM PST by Quester
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