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To: D-fendr; kosta50

Kalomiros certainly has his detractors among the Orthodox. Personally, I thoroughly enjoy his writings and find them excellent expositions of Orthodox theology. That said, I think the good professor lumped the Latins in with the Protestants, a failing one sees to this day in Greece. For some reason many Greeks, even educated ones and especially religious ones, see the West as being thoroughly Latin. Its as if Protestantism is just some off shoot of Catholicism. When Greeks who don't know us find out we are Americans, the almost immediate assumption is that we are Catholics. They do it with other Western nationalities as well. Anyway, his polemic against the Latins really seems today to be one against a strawman, though I doubt that was his intention when he wrote the piece. I think it was more the result of the times, as Kosta said, and an inborn Greek prejudice against all Latin matters theological.


8,083 posted on 01/30/2007 4:07:33 AM PST by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated!)
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To: Kolokotronis; sitetest; kosta50
Here is all you need to know about us Latins.

Writing in Report of the Embassy to Constantinople to the officials back in Cremona (Italy), Liutprand,the Ambassador,after witnessing the impressive display described in The Book of Ceremonies of the Byzantine Court,begins with first things first...

...the wine of the Greeks,mixed with pitch,resin and chalk, was for us undrinkable...

We know how to prioritise:)

BTW,here is Fr. Robert Taft on The Book of Ceremonies...

This source, by far the most complete and interesting of the imperial ceremonials, describes what the emperor and his entourage do with such meticulous precision as to make the present-day ritual of a papal coronation or royal wedding at Westminster Abbey appear to be as spontaneous as the Woodstock Festival by comparison.

*This really doesn't have much to do with your post but, I am reading Through Their Eyes, Liturgy as the Bzyantines Saw It and it is an easy, informative, and great read and I wanted everybody else to read it too

8,803 posted on 02/03/2007 11:33:27 AM PST by bornacatholic (I am the Catholic Cassius Clay)
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