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To: kosta50; Forest Keeper; Quester; HarleyD

What I wonder is if anyone ever lost their assurance. Or if anyone who has assurance was ever wrong.

Is assurance assured?


8,051 posted on 01/29/2007 6:53:13 PM PST by D-fendr
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What I wonder is if anyone ever lost their assurance. Or if anyone who has assurance was ever wrong. Is assurance assured

How would one ever know in this lifetime? The Protestant side seems to not believe that any one of them could be wrong. Being a Protestant is really very attractive from the human point of view. It is a real miracle more people are not Protestant. First, Protestants believe that Christ died for all their sins, past, present and future, so the bill is paid in full; they owe nothing.

Second, you are absolutely sure that the Holy Spirit indwells you and guides you. The fact that they all believe in a slightly different set of beliefs is irrelevant by all indications. By adopting Jesus as their Savior, they are justified in the yes of God, their sins have been wiped off, yesterday, today and tomorrow, and they are basically 'saved.'

Third, if they sin, Christ has already paid for them, so you really can't rack up any spiritual "debt" by sinning. Although it may not be something they desire or necessarily like, sin is a fact of life and truly very little of real concern as far as their already established state of 'salvation.'

Fourth, once you have convinced yourself that you are guided by the Holy Spirit, you are sure that He will never leave you. So, the peace of mind is right there along with imputed self-righteousness.

Thus, guided by the Holy Spirit, you create a personal faith and become your own "pope." If you don't like the First Baptist Church on Main Street, because the pastor teaches free will, or rapture, you can always go to the First Baptist Church on east Avenue and still be a Baptist...or whatever other flavor of Protestant you identify yourself with. Or, you can become a "non-denominational"

If you don't like the creed your church uses, you can always write another one. If you consider yourself Reformed, there is no hard and fast rule as to just how much concordance there must be between you and the other Reformed.

So, to pout it simply, it's cozey, it's easy and it's rather well tailored to man's nature lookign at it from outside.

Now, in all fairness, I don't know if that is how it is, but not a single one could prove to me that he or she is guided by the Holy Spirit, nor can any of them explain how is it that they all believe slightly different things if they are all taught by the same Teacher?

To an outsider, it seems terirbly presuptious, arrogant and conaceited. But, the various Protestants will tell me that I am dead wrong on this. And I would like to believe them, because most of them seem to be very decent and God-fearing people, but they have yet to explain all this in a way I can understand. Being absolutely sure they are saved and guided by the Holy Spirit does not contain even a slight possibility of error on thier part.

8,074 posted on 01/29/2007 10:11:55 PM PST by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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To: D-fendr; kosta50; Quester; HarleyD
What I wonder is if anyone ever lost their assurance. Or if anyone who has assurance was ever wrong. Is assurance assured?

In any particular believer, assurance isn't assured, but it is assuredly available. God's promises in scripture tell us that we may have assurance, but that doesn't mean that all believers apprehend this truth. It doesn't affect one's salvation, but it is a gift from God to those to whom He reveals it. I am sure there have been some who professed assurance and then lost confidence. We all have moments of weakness from time to time. But again, it doesn't affect salvation. I am also sure there have been some to profess assurance and been wrong. They were never saved.

8,654 posted on 02/02/2007 3:26:29 PM PST by Forest Keeper
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