[wmfights]

I see any difference between the two terms being defined by what we actually do after we are saved, and why that happens. When YOU say that OSAS and POTS are the same, I know exactly what you mean and I agree. However, partly for debate purposes, I have chosen to formally reject OSAS in favor of POTS.

I understand your point. In OSAS, as I learned it works are irrelevant. Once you are saved that's it. However, what people fail to recognize is that Sanctification kicks into gear after your saved. The desire to do works not for reward, but to serve our Savior well is a product of Sanctification.

POTS, as I have come to know it, says that once you are justified the Holy Spirit indwelling you will see to it that you persevere to the end. The desire to do works is also a product of Sanctification under POTS.

In either case OSAS, or POTS, the elect will always be saved to the end. In either case works are a product of Faith and do not purchase salvation, just reflect the Holy Spirit in the individual.

[klossg]

The desire to do works not for reward, but to serve our Savior well is a product of Sanctification.

That is true sanctity. That is true regardless of the Church, Catholic or otherwise. Anyone doing good things for the reward has an immature faith. A kind of Shamu view of faith.

Works for treats!

You agree that one denomination is not better than another on this point, right? People are just people and most do good things for reward rather than for true love of Jesus Christ Our Saviour.

[Forest Keeper]

In OSAS, as I learned it works are irrelevant. Once you are saved that's it. However, what people fail to recognize is that Sanctification kicks into gear after you're saved. The desire to do works not for reward, but to serve our Savior well is a product of Sanctification.

That's interesting. I only ever had a primitive understanding of OSAS, before I switched to POTS. At the time, I did not know of the view that works-producing sanctification was a given in salvation. I thought that sanctification was something that was available to us, but not that it guaranteed that anything would happen in the area of works. But I'm feeling much better now. :)