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To: annalex; Forest Keeper; Kolokotronis; blue-duncan; wmfights; P-Marlowe; Dr. Eckleburg; HarleyD; ...
The Apostles will teach the world (Jn 17:18f)

Peter will convert his brethren (Lk 22:32)

Brethren refers to the Jews. Paul's mission was to the Gentiles.

the Church will be one (Jn 17:22)

No argument, but in my Bible "Church" is spelled "church". And, quite coincidentally, so is it in my Catholic version.

together with the Tradition (2 Thess. 2:14)

Paul states we hold fast the traditions through the preaching of the word or the epistle (scripture). We don't learn tradition through men.

Compare:

No scripture can embrace the knowledge of Christ in full

I always get nervous when Catholics post references without any scripture.
7,565 posted on 01/26/2007 4:48:50 PM PST by HarleyD (Rebuke your neighbor frankly so you will not share in his guilt - Lev 19:17)
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To: HarleyD

AMEN! Great post, Harley.


7,566 posted on 01/26/2007 4:52:07 PM PST by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: HarleyD
I always get nervous when Catholics post references without any scripture.

No kidding.

7,571 posted on 01/26/2007 5:05:09 PM PST by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: HarleyD; Forest Keeper; Kolokotronis; blue-duncan; wmfights; P-Marlowe; Dr. Eckleburg
Brethren refers to the Jews

This is your naked opinion only. There is nothing in context to suggest that.

"Church" is spelled "church".

Capitalization in Bibles generally differs form lay discourse. Pronouns referring to Christ are not capitalized either.

We don't learn tradition through men

Not what St. Paul said in 2Th 2:15, as you helpfully quoted. It is true, of course, that not all traditions of all men are helpful. This is why one should avoid traditions of Messrs. Luther and the rest.

Joh 20:30

Fine, the gospel is written "so that we may believe". It is not a claim of completeness, as Evangelist St. John himself stated in the next chapter. If there existed such a claim, sola scriptura would have been proven from scripture, but of course we both know that it cannot be proven.

7,573 posted on 01/26/2007 5:09:40 PM PST by annalex
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To: HarleyD; annalex; Forest Keeper; blue-duncan; wmfights; P-Marlowe

"I always get nervous when Catholics post references without any scripture."

Why? I don't! :)


7,587 posted on 01/26/2007 5:24:03 PM PST by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated!)
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