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To: annalex; All; Buggman; hosepipe; .30Carbine; Alamo-Girl; P-Marlowe

First, mutilate the sacred Deposit of Faith given the Apostles. Second, mutilate the Scripture. Then, discover that no matter how you truncate the canon and mistranslate passages, the message remains Orthodox Catholic. The next big hope is in clay bottles somewhere in the desert, that will finally have Romans 3:28 say "allein".
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Not sure why this sounds like some pontifical edict from some throne at a very lofty self-appointed height of some super high ivory tower with ivy all over it . . . but it does.

mutilate the sacred Deposit of Faith given the Apostles.

1. NOT AT ALL. Rescue the tradition bound; organizational bureaucratic mangled Faith of the New Testament would be more accurate.

2. Given the apostles? True--but not as a secret code to be shared only with the initiated staff. Freely received, to be freely given--

NEITHER JEW NOR GREEK; MALE NOR FEMALE; SLAVE NOR FREE; PAPAL GATE KEEPER NOR TRIBAL SERF BELIEVER . . . IN CHRIST.

3. Second, mutilate the Scripture.

LOL, ROTFLOL; GUFFAWS TO THE MAX. This from the perspective of the most Scripture mangling of Christian organizations in history--and still so, to this day. Perhaps the LDS & JW'S are worse, but I hardly label them Christian in the truest sense of the word. Amazing.

And, when not mangling Scripture outright--building granite towers miles high on arguable nuances of cotton candy; air-gel and sand--politically motivated quick-sand, at that.

4. no matter how you truncate the canon and mistranslate passages, the message remains Orthodox Catholic.

No way Ho-zay . . . though it depends to some degree on the topic. The message remains ORTHODOX UNIVERSAL CHRISTIAN. NOT Roman Catholic. There's a huge difference, particularly in certain subset areas.

And, we tend to take the Canon as it is--and seek to conform outselves TO IT--NOT CONFORM IT TO OUR ORGANIZATION AS THE BE-ALL STANDARD OF RIGHTEOUSNESS--THE HUMAN, FLESHY, BUREACRATIC STRUCTURE OF FLAWED HUMANS AS THE STANDARD OF RIGHTEOUSNESS--TALK ABOUT SILLY AND NONSENSICAL!!!

--we do not insist that the canon has to be sieved, screened, flavored, twisted, approved, sanctioned, interpreted, mangled, censored, spun, turned-in-side-out & upside-down; neutered; spiked; exclusively parochialized; tainted; flesh-ridden; bureaucratically bound and polluted; . . . by some old boy's club of tradition bound; traditions of men bound; doctrines of demons bound fossilized old hot air speakers ensconsed in ivory towers of rigidity, sanctimoniousness and the like.

5. The next big hope is in clay bottles somewhere in the desert, that will finally have Romans 3:28 say "allein".
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GIVEN THE EVIDENCE HEREON, I'm pretty well convinced that the next big hope of the RC edifice is that the NEW GLOBALIST INQUISITION WILL SWEEP ALL PROTESTIES FROM THE FACE OF THE EARTH--or at least conscript all of them into papal ring polishers; Mary figurine halo polishers; Saint's statue toe kissers and the like.

No thanks.


7,118 posted on 01/20/2007 7:28:30 PM PST by Quix (LET GOD ARISE AND HIS ENEMIES BE SCATTERED. LET ISRAEL CALL ON GOD AS THEIRS! & ISLAM FLUSH ITSELF)
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To: Quix
we do not insist that the canon has to be sieved, screened, flavored, twisted, approved, sanctioned, interpreted, mangled, censored, spun, turned-in-side-out & upside-down; neutered; spiked; exclusively parochialized; tainted; flesh-ridden; bureaucratically bound and polluted; . . . by some old boy's club of tradition bound; traditions of men bound; doctrines of demons bound fossilized old hot air speakers ensconsed in ivory towers of rigidity, sanctimoniousness and the like.

Wow Quix, that was a really good post! Kudos!

7,174 posted on 01/21/2007 7:55:45 AM PST by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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It appears that the allusions I made in 7101 need elaboration.

mutilate the sacred Deposit of Faith given the Apostles

The allusion is to the doctrines of Sola Fide, and Sola Scriptura, not in evidence in the scripture and never taught by the Apostles or by the Early Church.

mutilate the Scripture

The reference is primarily to the truncation of the Christian Canon performed by Luther, and also to the horrid translations to vernacular, such as The Message.

the message remains Orthodox Catholic

The assertion is that an unbiased reading of the scripture in any edition still renders the fundamental beliefs that are both Catholic or Orthodox: Scripture is understood through the Church; man must cooperate with grace to reach holiness; Christ leads us to Church life which we share with the Apostles. One may not get things like Assumption of Mary form the scrpture, or whetehr or not to have pews or eat fish on Friday, form the scripture. But fundamnetals of faith one will get, and that will make him 90% Orthodox or Catohlic, and not at all Protestant of any stripe.

have Romans 3:28 say "allein".

Allein, "alone", is what Luther fraudulently inserted in Romans 3:28 to justify his theories "from scripture".

7,262 posted on 01/22/2007 4:22:25 PM PST by annalex
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