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To: Alamo-Girl
Thank you for thinking of me.

It seems pretty straight forward to me that Jesus' ministry was not about replacing the legalistic structure of the Pharisees and Sadducees with another structure of the same ilk. I believe God telling Israel that he did not want Kings is a foreshadowing of this as well.

God wants us to trust in him. The Holy Spirit guided the creation of the Canon so that we would always have a sure foundation to find the truth and not be misguided by the social, or political pressures, of the day.

I think it's interesting that the merger between State and Religion occurred after the Canon was recognized. It could well be that the Holy Spirit was ensuring that when the pressures of the State began to try and change how we would understand God there would always be SCRIPTURE to testify to the truth.

It's interesting that in the other passages that correspond to Matthew 16:18 (Mark 8:27-30, Luke 9:18-20) that there is no indication of special status for Peter, or for the Apostles. I believe the keys to the Kingdom of heaven is the Holy Spirit and those that are bound are those that believe in Jesus, just as Peter had just done, and those that don't are loosed in heaven.

6,889 posted on 01/19/2007 7:28:37 AM PST by wmfights (LUKE 9:49-50 , MARK 9:38-41)
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To: wmfights

It seems pretty straight forward to me that Jesus' ministry was not about replacing the legalistic structure of the Pharisees and Sadducees with another structure of the same ilk. I believe God telling Israel that he did not want Kings is a foreshadowing of this as well.

God wants us to trust in him. The Holy Spirit guided the creation of the Canon so that we would always have a sure foundation to find the truth and not be misguided by the social, or political pressures, of the day.

I think it's interesting that the merger between State and Religion occurred after the Canon was recognized. It could well be that the Holy Spirit was ensuring that when the pressures of the State began to try and change how we would understand God there would always be SCRIPTURE to testify to the truth.


AMEN! AMEN! AMEN!


6,910 posted on 01/19/2007 8:50:29 AM PST by Quix (LET GOD ARISE AND HIS ENEMIES BE SCATTERED. LET ISRAEL CALL ON GOD AS THEIRS! & ISLAM FLUSH ITSELF)
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To: wmfights
Thank you so much for sharing your beautiful insights!

I believe God telling Israel that he did not want Kings is a foreshadowing of this as well.

Indeed, that rings true in my Spirit as well!

I believe the keys to the Kingdom of heaven is the Holy Spirit and those that are bound are those that believe in Jesus, just as Peter had just done, and those that don't are loosed in heaven.

This also rings true in my Spirit. Peter was first to receive the direct revelation from the Father and along with it he had responsibilities/authorities concerning Christ's sheep, most especially to proclaim that Jesus Christ is Lord, the receiving being a binding, the rejecting being a loosing.

We all have this responsibility/authority once we have received the same direct revelation that Jesus Christ is Lord. (compare Matt 16 and Matt 18 on binding and loosing)

But as you say, people often seem to want a "king" or at least to put someone or some thing between themselves and God. I believe the following is a type for that phenomenon as well, i.e. that people, out of fear, want their pastor, minister, preacher, prophet, saint, evangelist, apostle or pope to be an intermediary - because they cannot bear the glory of God personally.

And it came to pass, when Moses came down from mount Sinai with the two tables of testimony in Moses' hand, when he came down from the mount, that Moses wist not that the skin of his face shone while he talked with him. And when Aaron and all the children of Israel saw Moses, behold, the skin of his face shone; and they were afraid to come nigh him.

And Moses called unto them; and Aaron and all the rulers of the congregation returned unto him: and Moses talked with them. And afterward all the children of Israel came nigh: and he gave them in commandment all that the LORD had spoken with him in mount Sinai.

And [till] Moses had done speaking with them, he put a vail on his face. But when Moses went in before the LORD to speak with him, he took the vail off, until he came out. And he came out, and spake unto the children of Israel [that] which he was commanded.

And the children of Israel saw the face of Moses, that the skin of Moses' face shone: and Moses put the vail upon his face again, until he went in to speak with him. - Exo 34:29-35

It reminds of that line from the movie, "Truth? You can't handle the truth!" And so many willfully do not behold the glory of God and appoint intermediaries, trusting them instead and burdening them with their own spiritual well being - and worse, putting the intermediary in peril should at any time he act of self-will (fail in utter humility) - and like Moses, for a single failing be denied entry to the "promised land." (Also a "type" wrt this phenomenon.)

6,923 posted on 01/19/2007 9:47:44 AM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: wmfights

God wants us to trust in him. The Holy Spirit guided the creation of the Canon so that we would always have a sure foundation to find the truth and not be misguided by the social, or political pressures, of the day.

I think it's interesting that the merger between State and Religion occurred after the Canon was recognized. It could well be that the Holy Spirit was ensuring that when the pressures of the State began to try and change how we would understand God there would always be SCRIPTURE to testify to the truth.

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Great points, imho.


7,140 posted on 01/20/2007 8:30:19 PM PST by Quix (LET GOD ARISE AND HIS ENEMIES BE SCATTERED. LET ISRAEL CALL ON GOD AS THEIRS! & ISLAM FLUSH ITSELF)
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