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To: annalex; Dr. Eckleburg; Forest Keeper
Well, I know of Luther who broke his vows by marrying a nun, a horrid thing in my humble opinion.
Vows made to a satanic church (and YES what was going on in the church at the time WAS most certainly Satanic- from Papal mistresses to bankrupt Popes to selling indulgences, to simony, to pluralism) before one was a Christian are not laid to one's charge.

My point is simply that once the presumption of election is made by someone, a door to sin opens wider.
Your point is a straw-man; just like if I said the idea that having last rights shortly before death absolves me of sin so eat drink and be merry is a straw man. Human beings are just that. Those who are devout are truly devout. Those who are playing at faith or just want fire insurance are something else.

A true understanding of the doctrine of election doesn't lead to sin. It leads to humility.
6,799 posted on 01/18/2007 7:15:24 PM PST by Blogger
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To: Blogger; Dr. Eckleburg; Forest Keeper

Priestly and monastic vows are to Christ. This being said, calling the Bride of Christ satanic is an act of moral depravity in itself.


6,817 posted on 01/18/2007 8:59:45 PM PST by annalex
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