To: Alamo-Girl; hosepipe; wmfights; betty boop; .30Carbine; cornelis; Dr. Eckleburg; P-Marlowe; ...
Definitely; but the story of Mary and Martha dovetails just fine with the Catholic teaching. When Mary Magdalene annointed Jesus, he praised her: her work was work of worship. When Martha works, she works ate the expense of contemplation and study. Her work is a work for social recognition, or perhaps of obligation -- not the work a Christian is asked to do freely. Works done for obligation or for reward is very clearly described as not salvific in Romans and Galatians -- we don't have any dispute with St. Paul on that score. "Give what you have to the poor and come follow me" is the formula for works of love that are asked of us. Note the last part: if the young rich man were to give everything to the poor but not follow Christ, then he would be akin to Martha and afoul of the request of Christ.
To: annalex; Alamo-Girl; betty boop; .30Carbine
[ Works done for obligation or for reward is very clearly described as not salvific in Romans and Galatians ]
Reading Galatians and understanding it is not a given..
The Judaizers(J) were taken on full force by Paul..
After all who could understand them better than Paul..
He used to BE one of them..
Paul in that book took them(J) to the whipping post and those fooled by them..
Judaizers or those following the works of/by tradition come in many colors..
Can a christian be a Judaizer?.. (Roman Catholic or Protestant)
Interesting question wouldn't you say?..
6,773 posted on
01/18/2007 4:20:21 PM PST by
hosepipe
(CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole....)
To: annalex; hosepipe; wmfights; betty boop; .30Carbine; cornelis; Dr. Eckleburg; P-Marlowe
Works done for obligation or for reward is very clearly described as not salvific in Romans and Galatians -- we don't have any dispute with St. Paul on that score.
And here we have an irreconcilable difference because I aver that if anyone - anyone - ever was good enough ("works") to get into heaven then Christ died for nothing.
I do not frustrate the grace of God: for if righteousness [come] by the law, then Christ is dead in vain. - Gal 2:21
To: annalex; Alamo-Girl; hosepipe; wmfights; betty boop; D-fendr
Works done for obligation or for reward is very clearly described as not salvific in Romans and Galatians -- we don't have any dispute with St. Paul on that score That was the basic premise of the Law. Do things pleasing to God and you will become acceptable to God. One does not become righteous by listening, but by doing the works.
"it is not the hearers of the Law who are just before God, but the doers of the Law will be justified." (Rom 2:13)
In this case +Paul clearly says that the doers of the law will be (not are) justified before God.
6,887 posted on
01/19/2007 6:58:03 AM PST by
kosta50
(Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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