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To: annalex; hosepipe; .30Carbine; P-Marlowe; Quix; Dr. Eckleburg; Buggman
That God is the Rock has not been lost in Judaism, e.g. “Rock of Ages” (Ma’oz Tzur) is the favorite Hanukkah Song.

Nor has it been lost among Christians who have long used the King James Translation which was faithful to interpret literally the Hebrew word tzur to mean Rock instead of God or Mighty One.

Ironically, the Christian hymn Rock of Ages is among their favorites.

Of all the possible errors a translator could make, seems to me that missing the mark on one of the names or titles of God has to be “right up there.” But I imagine that too is according to God’s plan, because when Christians and Jews do not understand that God (Father, Son, Holy Spirit) is the Rock – it can have (and evidently has had) a broad effect.

For the record, here’s a few examples of the importance of God’s name(s)

But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, [even] to them that believe on his name: Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God. – John 1:11-12

I am come in my Father's name, and ye receive me not: if another shall come in his own name, him ye will receive. – John 5:43

I have manifested thy name unto the men which thou gavest me out of the world: thine they were, and thou gavest them me; and they have kept thy word. – John 17:6

And now I am no more in the world, but these are in the world, and I come to thee. Holy Father, keep through thine own name those whom thou hast given me, that they may be one, as we [are]. While I was with them in the world, I kept them in thy name: those that thou gavest me I have kept, and none of them is lost, but the son of perdition; that the scripture might be fulfilled. And now come I to thee; and these things I speak in the world, that they might have my joy fulfilled in themselves. – John 17:11-13

Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name: That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of [things] in heaven, and [things] in earth, and [things] under the earth; And [that] every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ [is] Lord, to the glory of God the Father. – Philippians 2:9-11

His eyes [were] as a flame of fire, and on his head [were] many crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself. And he [was] clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God. – Revelation 19:12-13

Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name….

6,758 posted on 01/18/2007 2:57:12 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: wmfights
I'm so sorry. I should have pinged you to 6758 above.

Thank you for sharing your insights and for all your pings!

6,759 posted on 01/18/2007 3:18:41 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: Alamo-Girl; hosepipe; .30Carbine; P-Marlowe; Quix; Dr. Eckleburg; Buggman

I don't argue with the Rock typology. How could I -- it makes the naming of Peter so much more significant.

However, among the translations the Septuagint has a special place, as it is the evidence of the Jewish Scripture at the time of Christ, and prior to the Council of Jamnia.


6,764 posted on 01/18/2007 3:58:49 PM PST by annalex
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To: Alamo-Girl

Amen!


6,858 posted on 01/19/2007 2:10:28 AM PST by .30Carbine (Firstlove feelings always have at their core an intense desire to be with the beloved.)
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To: Alamo-Girl

Excellent points about THE ROCK CHRIST JESUS; THE CHIEF CORNER STONE; THE STONE THE BUILDERS REJECTED.

The latter . . . BTW, another bit of evidence that God is not exactly thrilled with organized religion whether in the older Old Testament times nor at Jesus' earthly ministry times . . . and by extention . . . nor today.


7,127 posted on 01/20/2007 8:05:23 PM PST by Quix (LET GOD ARISE AND HIS ENEMIES BE SCATTERED. LET ISRAEL CALL ON GOD AS THEIRS! & ISLAM FLUSH ITSELF)
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