[kosta50]

Surely the fact you put a + in front of the Holy Apostle Paul's name indicates you regard him as being lead by the Holy Spirit in his actions

I never rejected +Paul. Who am I to reject him?

...sober this-wordly analysis of the religious situation c. 70 AD suggests that the Church would have at worst died out...does not in any way negate the fact [sic] that the Holy Apostles, both the 12 and the 70, were vessels of the Holy Spirit, nor the Apostolic Council's preambulatory "It seemed good to the Holy Spirit and to us..."

Faith does not convince by "facts," nor by reason. Otherwise it would be verifyable rationalism.

What you call a fact does not impress the Jews or the Muslims. They subscribe to an entirely different set "facts."

[kawaii]

I'm not sure why you bother Kosta. I mean you're defending your stance on Paul with folks many of whom already reject 2 of his teachings...

[The_Reader_David]

I stand by the use of the word 'fact' as to my, no, not my, the Church's, description of the Holy Apostles.

The Holy Apostle Paul describes faith as 'evidence' at one point. We sing at the end of every Liturgy, "we have found the True Faith." Holy Orthodoxy is objectively true, and its doctrines are facts, even if the only evidence for some of them is faith.