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To: Mad Dawg; Dr. Eckleburg; .30Carbine; Alamo-Girl; Marysecretary; DarthVader; shield; P-Marlowe

I'm saying the idea of the invisible Church is itself vaguely gnostic, not in its background but in its essence.
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Not so fast sherlock.

As I recall, that notion has been soundly refuted many moons and posts ago.

In my construction on reality, one can not make of gnosticism a rubber wet blanket tailor-made to be one size fits all PROTESTANTS only.

Nonsense.

Merium Webster
Main Entry: gnos·ti·cism

Pronunciation: 'näs-t&-"si-z&m

Function: noun

Usage: often capitalized

: the thought and practice especially of various cults of late pre-Christian and early Christian centuries distinguished by the conviction that matter is evil and that emancipation comes through gnosis

If we are going to rubberize the notions of gnosticism--the following is more logical, to me . . .

The TOM [Traditions of Men] edifice asserts that wrestling with our current tangible realities is essentially evil--even with tangible SCRIPTURE . . . and that we are emancipated MUCH MORE SUCCESSFULLY by KNOWLEDGE of departed saints and reverence toward them, veneration toward them . . . even covert worship of them . . .

If gnosticism is the topic . . . seems to me the plethora of extra-Biblilcal saints and immaculate . . . constructions . . . builds an enormous edifice that quite consistently facilitates, encourages a mental manipulation of reality and religion quite along gnostic lines.

It's a paradox, really. On the one hand there's all this immersion in drearily obsessive/compulsive tangible fossilized rituals and traditions and doctrines of men. On the other hand, there's all this unBiblical supposedly heavenly minded stuff of focusing on supposedly heavenly things--any one of a list of hundreds upon hundreds of heavenly beings--as long as it distracts from God's Glory and Christ's intercessions for us . . . all the better.

Sigh.


6,509 posted on 01/17/2007 6:16:45 AM PST by Quix (LET GOD ARISE AND HIS ENEMIES BE SCATTERED. LET ISRAEL CALL ON GOD AS THEIRS! & ISLAM FLUSH ITSELF)
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To: Quix
...it distracts from God's Glory and Christ's intercessions for us

Amen. At their peril.

6,601 posted on 01/17/2007 1:37:46 PM PST by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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