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To: Forest Keeper; Blogger; The_Reader_David; Kolokotronis
Protestants "get to work" by sharing the Gospel of Christ with millions of people who have never heard it before. How do the Orthodox "get to work"? )

Living the faith, dying unto our pasisons, praying three times a day, charity, loving our enemies, practicing mercy, humility, confessions and communions, repentance, hungering for righteousness, thanking God for everything including bad days, leaving all your earthly cares...I wouldn't call it work. It's a life.

My conception of theosis was an attainment of something, but here it sounds more like an awarding of something

Yes, it's called likeness to Christ.

6,301 posted on 01/16/2007 1:46:10 PM PST by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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To: kosta50; Forest Keeper; Blogger; The_Reader_David

"Living the faith, dying unto our pasisons, praying three times a day, charity, loving our enemies, practicing mercy, humility, confessions and communions, repentance, hungering for righteousness, thanking God for everything including bad days, leaving all your earthly cares...I wouldn't call it work. It's a life."

Exactly. And as the Desert Fathers testify, and is to be seen to this day among some holy monastics, the holiness of that life actually restores creation around it to its created state, where the lion does indeed lie down with the lamb (or the donkey in +Gerasimos' case!).


6,377 posted on 01/16/2007 5:39:25 PM PST by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated!)
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To: kosta50; Blogger; The_Reader_David; Kolokotronis
FK: "Protestants "get to work" by sharing the Gospel of Christ with millions of people who have never heard it before. How do the Orthodox "get to work"? )"

Living the faith, dying unto our passions, praying three times a day, charity, loving our enemies, practicing mercy, humility, confessions and communions, repentance, hungering for righteousness, thanking God for everything including bad days, leaving all your earthly cares...I wouldn't call it work. It's a life.

I was responding to your earlier comment: "... So, shed that cozy, don't-worry-be-happy macarena attitude dear protestant brothers, and get to work!" Does this mean that you really, truly believe that we do not do the types of things you list above? You weren't writing to radical Protestant factions, you were writing to the Protestants on this thread. If you mean that none of what we do in worship of God "counts" for anything because we are not Apostolic, that is one thing. But I would be really disappointed if you still think that our view is to simply declare salvation, and then go and do whatever we want in sin. In thousands of posts, you have never heard that from any of us.

FK: "My conception of theosis was an attainment of something, but here it sounds more like an awarding of something."

Yes, it's called likeness to Christ.

So theosis is the awarding of a likeness to Christ? May I assume that this award is based upon the performance of all the deeds you listed above to a certain degree?

7,426 posted on 01/24/2007 11:01:19 AM PST by Forest Keeper
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