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To: Blogger
I think you are agreeing (though disagreeing with the Quixster). In that Sola Scriptura religions include teaching. You are disagreeing here though:

The Word itself is sufficient. Teaching is helpful.

First, I'm assuming you are conflating "Word" with Bible. Second, I don't think any Protestant acts like they really believe this. Is there any that doesn't stress 'right' teaching? 'right' dividing?

Sounds good, but pure literal Sola Scriptura? I don't think you really believe that, not if you think about closely.

6,140 posted on 01/15/2007 8:34:16 PM PST by D-fendr
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To: D-fendr

The latter is inseperable from Sola Scriptura.

The whole point is that the focal point of our understanding is Scripture. It is the anchor.

We dig through Scripture. Chew on it a while. Take it in. Why? Because that is one of the ways that God helps us to learn. He left teachers here to teach. Prophets to Prophesy. Apostles to Apostlize (joking here with the word use so don't jump on me). The Body of Christ is truly a way we learn - BUT NOT APART FROM SCRIPTURE! That is what Sola Scriptura is about. It isn't about someone appearing and creating new doctrine that isn't found in Scripture or even hinting at and then some centralized hierarchical structure saying "yep, it's from God."

Even with the apostles, what they taught was in a certain harmony with the Old Testament with Christ Jesus as the hinge which connected and interwove the two.

D-fendr. You are trying hard to make a point about Sola Scriptura. But if you don't have the right understanding about what Sola Scriptura is, then your point falls hollow.

Also, you never answered the question. How do you know the church got it right? You pick on the Protestants stance that we can rightly understand and interpret Scripture as if the Protestants are the only ones who can blow it on a matter of Scripture. What about your faith ? How do you know that these men were led of God? How do you know that they got it right? How do you know that they are the "church" that Christ spoke of and not a substitute?


6,146 posted on 01/15/2007 8:41:45 PM PST by Blogger
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To: D-fendr

Blogger and I disagreeing?

Oh, dear!

Call out the Inquisition! Perish the thought! Impossible!

Though I guess we are two individuals.

We're not even close to clones.

Identical robots maybe?

Naw--he uses different batteries.

But my impression--perhaps due to be immediately corrected, is that blogger agrees with my REAL LIFE examples sanctified by Holy Spirit's miracles in China and other groups . . . as testifying that

SCRIPTURE TAKEN AT FACE VALUE; SCRIPTURE DONE AT FACE VALUE will always bear fruit and shockingly often, be confirmed with miraculous signs following.

Of course, I haven't followed Blogger closely for a long time and he may be of a different denominational group which has decreed that Holy Spirit ABSOLUTELY HAS TO STOP all such miraculous affirmations--UNDER PAIN OF CENUSRE, or worse. That would be interesting. How do theological bureaucrats cenusre Holy Spirit? But I don't know one way or the other on that.


6,147 posted on 01/15/2007 8:42:28 PM PST by Quix (LET GOD ARISE AND HIShe ENEMIES BE SCATTERED. LET ISRAEL CALL ON GOD AS THEIRS! & ISLAM FLUSH ITSELF)
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