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To: hosepipe; betty boop; .30Carbine; cornelis
Now, after a good night’s sleep, I’m reading to continue the investigation! LOL!

GOD(Father, Son, Holy Spirit) seems to be not one Spirit at all but three personalitys/entitys..

Three Persons indeed, but there is no “bright line” separating them where one could say this is where the Father ends and the Son begins, etc.

Who being the brightness of [his] glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high; - Hebrews 1:3

If ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also: and from henceforth ye know him, and have seen him. – John 14:7

But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father, [even] the Spirit of truth, which proceedeth from the Father, he shall testify of me: - John 15:26

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Could be that "GOD" could be even more Spirits we just don't know about them all.. Whatever is; Is.. If theres only three thats cool too..

This is slippery ground because there is only one Father and He has only one begotten Son, our Lord Jesus Christ. The Scriptures are very clear on the point.

However, when it comes the Holy Spirit – the Scriptures reveal something of His Person which often (at least in my case) gets a “deer in the headlight look” when it is mentioned, namely this:

John to the seven churches which are in Asia: Grace [be] unto you, and peace, from him which is, and which was, and which is to come; and from the seven Spirits which are before his throne; - Rev 1:4

And unto the angel of the church in Sardis write; These things saith he that hath the seven Spirits of God, and the seven stars; I know thy works, that thou hast a name that thou livest, and art dead. – Rev 3:1

And out of the throne proceeded lightnings and thunderings and voices: and [there were] seven lamps of fire burning before the throne, which are the seven Spirits of God. – Rev 4:5

I’ve prayed and meditated over those passages at length – and the leading I have in the Spirit is that He is like a diamond with seven facets. That of course suggests (considering the discussion of the seven churches in Rev 1-3) that members of the body of Christ, collectively, may be seeing the same diamond and the same Light but from different facets. And that of course suggests that we should not be upset because some others see (understand) Truth a bit differently than we do.

A spiritual Universe or a Universe of spirits is inconcieveable to most people I know.. Or a Universe where physical bodys are an after thought and not really needed..

Indeed. As long as a man keeps “hanging on” to this life, he can never die to it and be alive in Christ while even yet in the flesh. He cannot experience much less understand or navigate the reality of the spiritual realm:

But Jesus said unto him, Follow me; and let the dead bury their dead. – Matt 8:22

But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, [even] to them that believe on his name: Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God. – John 1:12-13

Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and [of] the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit. Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again. The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every one that is born of the Spirit. – John 3:5-8

Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live: - John 11:25

Wherefore if ye be dead with Christ from the rudiments of the world, why, as though living in the world, are ye subject to ordinances, (Touch not; taste not; handle not; Which all are to perish with the using;) after the commandments and doctrines of men? Which things have indeed a shew of wisdom in will worship, and humility, and neglecting of the body; not in any honour to the satisfying of the flesh. – Col 2:20-23

For ye are dead, and your life is hid with Christ in God. – Col 3:3

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Mankind anthropomorphizing God seem to tend to do it with the human body as some kind of model.. But then most people I know think they themselves are a human body.. NOT a spirit inhabiting a human body.. Theres quite a difference in that identification.. In that case they anthropomorphize themselves.. LoL..

So very true – it is that “hanging on” to mortal life that I believe makes one only admit reason and sensory perception to his concept of “all that there is.” Like doubting Thomas, they want to put their fingers in Christ’s nail scarred hands and thrust their hand into His side.

But we must remember that doubting Thomas was an apostle, too – and be patient as was Paul here:

But some [man] will say, How are the dead raised up? and with what body do they come?

[Thou] fool, that which thou sowest is not quickened, except it die: And that which thou sowest, thou sowest not that body that shall be, but bare grain, it may chance of wheat, or of some other [grain]: But God giveth it a body as it hath pleased him, and to every seed his own body.

All flesh [is] not the same flesh: but [there is] one [kind of] flesh of men, another flesh of beasts, another of fishes, [and] another of birds. [There are] also celestial bodies, and bodies terrestrial: but the glory of the celestial [is] one, and the [glory] of the terrestrial [is] another. [There is] one glory of the sun, and another glory of the moon, and another glory of the stars: for [one] star differeth from [another] star in glory.

So also [is] the resurrection of the dead. It is sown in corruption; it is raised in incorruption:

It is sown in dishonour; it is raised in glory: it is sown in weakness; it is raised in power:

It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.

And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam [was made] a quickening spirit. – 1 Cor 15:35-45


6,017 posted on 01/15/2007 9:37:58 AM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: Alamo-Girl; betty boop; .30Carbine; cornelis
Beautiful rendition of spiritual oneness on a subject.. that post..
A lovely display of spiritual physics... deep calling to deeper logic..

One more thing..
About the verse(s) that posits that a man shall become one flesh with his wife.. in marriage.. One wonders if that is a metaphor referring to the Husband(Groom) and the Bride of Christ(wife).. The Husband being Gods Spirit(s) and the bride being the spirits of certain humans(church).. implied also in the last several chapters of revelation.. For the spiritual city is itself spirits not stuctures... God and man becoming one spirit like a husband and wife becoming one flesh.. Talk about harmony and oneness..

That is beyond anthropomorphiziation.. I think..
Spirits; with no need of shelter and all the other things physical bodies require for comfort and sensual delight or pain..

The Bible could be read with an anthropomorphizing attitude or read de-anthropomorphized.. two different books I think.. This is quite a subject.. Us being two Children of God playing in the Universal sandbox.. (( HUG ))... Betcha spirits have no need of gender either, why would they?.. Gender served a purpose on earth but not needed Universally, I think.. Gender could be the ultimate anthropomorphosis.. Ya.. think?..

6,021 posted on 01/15/2007 10:50:47 AM PST by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole....)
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To: Alamo-Girl

I Love The Spirit's expositions through your hands and mind.

Thx.


6,030 posted on 01/15/2007 12:17:58 PM PST by Quix (LET GOD ARISE AND HIShe ENEMIES BE SCATTERED. LET ISRAEL CALL ON GOD AS THEIRS! & ISLAM FLUSH ITSELF)
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