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To: Alamo-Girl; hosepipe
In the absence of Spiritual revelation or leading or seeking – or if he chooses to ignore it - man is left to rely on his own reasoning and sensory perception to understand “things.” To such a one, God is one of those “things.”

And yet God can never be a "datum" of sense experience about which propositions may be advanced! To reduce God to human categories of reasoning is to lose God. E.g., the scientific method is a tool for measuring "things." Things are physical entities in four-dimensional spacetime. God utterly transcends four-dimensional spacetime, thus he is not a "thing."

Man cannot be the measure of God: reason and logic are wholly inadequate, not up to the job. What we know about God is what the holy scriptures reveal to us, what the creation reveals to us, and what the Spirit reveals to us.

My two cents worth anyway. FWIW Thank you so much for the glorious essay-post, dearest Alamo-Girl!

5,986 posted on 01/15/2007 7:02:08 AM PST by betty boop (Beautiful are the things we see...Much the most beautiful those we do not comprehend. -- N. Steensen)
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To: betty boop
Thank you so much for your wonderful insights!

Man cannot be the measure of God: reason and logic are wholly inadequate, not up to the job. What we know about God is what the holy scriptures reveal to us, what the creation reveals to us, and what the Spirit reveals to us.

SO very true!

5,998 posted on 01/15/2007 8:41:53 AM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: betty boop; Alamo-Girl; .30Carbine; cornelis
[ Things are physical entities in four-dimensional spacetime. God utterly transcends four-dimensional spacetime, thus he is not a "thing." ]

The last two chapters of revelation goes into the thinglyness of things in the "Spiritual Dimension"/realm.. Takes a bit of a spiritual shift to see that those things are the Spirits/spirits themselves.. I think.. Am looking forward to a dimensional shift myself.. Could make this four dimension thing (I've been living) quite boring..

6,023 posted on 01/15/2007 11:29:57 AM PST by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole....)
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