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To: Quix; All; Alamo-Girl; .30Carbine; Marysecretary; DarthVader

Do you have to be so loud?

If the Church teaches that anything is necessary for salvation, then it is, and for most of it we also have scripture that says the same thing. Baptism and Eucharist in particular are necessary for salvation, 'cause the Bible tells me so.


5,583 posted on 01/12/2007 8:41:50 PM PST by annalex
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To: annalex

I think "loud" is in the eye of the beholder, mostly.

I like a variety of emphases including all caps. My quirk. If it's too annoying, feel free to skip my posts.

You have some annoying quirks, too. No biggy. It's called the human condition, last I checked.

Anything straightforwardly built plainly and directly on Scripture and practiced in good faith without fleshly embellishment and layering on of inferred, extrapolated, assumed junk . . . toward the increasing of intimacy with Jesus, Father, Spirit--is worth my applause--at least acceptance and prayerful support.


5,604 posted on 01/12/2007 9:07:40 PM PST by Quix (LET GOD ARISE AND HIShe ENEMIES BE SCATTERED. LET ISRAEL CALL ON GOD AS THEIRS! & ISLAM FLUSH ITSELF)
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To: annalex

Where in the Bible does it tell you that, annalex? The bible says to believe and be baptized. Belief is the main point and baptism comes as obedience but if a person believes on his or her death bed, and isn't baptized, does that person go to hell? I think not. There isn't anywhere I know of where the eucharist is really necessary. What is necessary is putting your faith and trust in Jesus Christ. But, you've been over all this before, I'm sure.


5,617 posted on 01/12/2007 9:51:13 PM PST by Marysecretary (GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL.)
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To: annalex; Quix
Baptism and Eucharist in particular are necessary for salvation, 'cause the Bible tells me so.

Jesus is necessary for salvation; He is the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.

Abraham, Moses, David, the thief on the cross, etc. didn't have baptism, the Eucharist or, as far as I can see, an organization of men claiming dispositive authority over their souls.

The aborted babies have neither baptism nor Eucharist - neither do some who are mentally or physically handicapped and others who have died without hearing the Gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ.

For as many as have sinned without law shall also perish without law: and as many as have sinned in the law shall be judged by the law; (For not the hearers of the law [are] just before God, but the doers of the law shall be justified. For when the Gentiles, which have not the law, do by nature the things contained in the law, these, having not the law, are a law unto themselves: Which shew the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and [their] thoughts the mean while accusing or else excusing one another;) In the day when God shall judge the secrets of men by Jesus Christ according to my gospel. – Romans 2:12-16


5,637 posted on 01/12/2007 10:45:30 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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