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Thank you for your reply!

Very good. But note how the Church here is like a plant, planted once, watered by many. Protestantism, depsite of course, great many sincere believers, as a movement, was an effort to separate from the root.

Except for those of us who share the “mind of Christ” (I Cor 2:16) – and only to that extent - I cannot read the mind of my physical neighbor must less those who lived so long ago. So I cannot say why a religious leader did this or that.

Therein also my point is underscored. I recognize my brothers and sisters in Christ many times by what they write, having never seen them in person nor having heard their physical voice. betty boop is a great example, .30Carbine another, xzins another and so on.

More relevant to this discussion are the Scriptures themselves. It is the indwelling Spirit Himself who testifies to me that He is indeed the author of them – thus they are the living words of God not just another interesting ancient manuscript.

Jesus saith unto her, Woman, believe me, the hour cometh, when ye shall neither in this mountain, nor yet at Jerusalem, worship the Father. Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship: for salvation is of the Jews.

But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him. God [is] a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship [him] in spirit and in truth.

The woman saith unto him, I know that Messias cometh, which is called Christ: when he is come, he will tell us all things. Jesus saith unto her, I that speak unto thee am [he]. – John 4:21-26

I cannot say why a religious leader did this or that.

We had a discussion about Luther's personal motivation on this thread. My position is that whatever that was, objectively the Reform movement was a separation from the Apostolic Church. A witness to that is the Orthodox Church, which was not touched by the corruption of 15c popes, sees its purpose in the preservation of the Early Church, and has theology barely distinguishable from Catholicism.

Why am I amazed you wrote and quoted exactly that?! I guess because it remains an amazing Oneness of Knowing even when it ceases to be an uncommon occurance, i.e., a surprise. Go see what I posted on my homepage...earlier this morning...

I also thought specifically of you, my sister, in reading the following on the last page of Simone Weil's book, Waiting for God

The last sentence she wrote in the notebook found after her death was:
"The most important part of education - to teach the meaning of to know (in the scientific sense)."

I've never met one who does that better than you.