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To: annalex; Dr. Eckleburg; blue-duncan

No it doesn't. And yes, I do object to the interpretation of it. Mary was blessed. This doesn't mean one prays to her.

The woman in Revelation is Israel. Compare with Joseph's dream:
Genesis 37
9And he dreamed yet another dream, and told it his brethren, and said, Behold, I have dreamed a dream more; and, behold, the sun and the moon and the eleven stars made obeisance to me.

10And he told it to his father, and to his brethren: and his father rebuked him, and said unto him, What is this dream that thou hast dreamed? Shall I and thy mother and thy brethren indeed come to bow down ourselves to thee to the earth?

11And his brethren envied him; but his father observed the saying.

The 11 stars were the 11 tribes of Israel not including Joseph.
The Sun and moon is also associated here with Israel's family.

The Woman that gave birth to the man child in Revelation is not Mary, but Israel. Mary in no way represented all 12 tribes if Israel, but Israel itself gave birth to the man child. Satan has tried to crush Israel since her beginning. He tried to crush the man-child. The woman in Genesis, by your own theology, is also not Mary.

Genesis 3:14-16 (King James Version)
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14And the LORD God said unto the serpent, Because thou hast done this, thou art cursed above all cattle, and above every beast of the field; upon thy belly shalt thou go, and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy life:

15And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.

16Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee.


If this were Mary, according to your theology, verse 16 would never have applied. The woman here was Eve.

There is no scriptural foundation for venerating Mary.


4,928 posted on 01/10/2007 3:14:46 PM PST by Blogger
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To: Blogger; Dr. Eckleburg; blue-duncan
The Woman that gave birth to the man child in Revelation is not Mary, but Israel

This is a wild mariophobic interpretation. The woman in Apocalypse 12 is described very graphically as giving birth to a child whose name is Christ and with whose disciples satan wages war. That woman is Mary, the messenger to the Twelve Apostles. The woman whose seed crushed the serpent in Gen 3:15 is also Mary. In 3:16 it is obviously Eve as God turns to her in that sentence.

Now, Israel is a type of Mary as naturally Mary is the high point and achievement of the biblical Israel, fulfilling its divine purpose. In fact, in venerating Mary the entire Jewish race is venerated.

Note that the Apocalypse does not mince words describing the enemies of Mary in that chapter. Perhpas veneration of Mary is not in the scripture as directly as to satisfy you. But mariophobia certainly is.

4,932 posted on 01/10/2007 4:00:05 PM PST by annalex
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