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To: Blogger

I want to say again, this is not about you. It's cool you can intellectually hold the Calvinist view and at the same time see God as just, merciful, loving and compassionate.

I just think that is in spite of Calvin, not a logical result of his system.


4,249 posted on 01/06/2007 8:51:48 PM PST by D-fendr
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To: D-fendr

Calvin saw him the same way:

If it be objected, that God is everywhere called “a Father,” and that this title is more appropriate to him, I reply, that no figures of speech can describe God’s extraordinary affection towards us; for it is infinite and various; so that, if all that can be said or imagined about love were brought together into one, yet it would be surpassed by the greatness of the love of God. By no metaphor, therefore, can his incomparable goodness be described.- John Calvin


4,253 posted on 01/06/2007 9:01:40 PM PST by Blogger (In nullo gloriandum quando nostrum nihil sit- Cyprian)
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To: D-fendr; Blogger
I just think that is in spite of Calvin, not a logical result of his system.

It's not a matter of logic; it is what the system teaches. It teaches that God is not the Author of Sin, and it tells you how that is not so.

Their Westminster Confession says:

God, from all eternity, did, by the most wise and holy counsel of his own will, freely, and unchangeably ordain whatsoever comes to pass: yet so, as thereby neither is God the author of sin, nor is violence offered to the will of the creatures; nor is the liberty or contingency of second causes taken away, but rather established.

Now, I can use whatever logic I want, but if it ignores the statements of their own system, then it is faulty to charge them with a fault that is not the result of the system they have actually established.

I understand that in Canadian Football there are 12 men on the field. Therefore, American Football doesn't have enough men on the field. (I can deduce all kinds of things from that about American Football, but none of it would be valid. American football must be seen in light of its own system.)

4,257 posted on 01/06/2007 9:03:59 PM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and proud of it! Supporting our troops means praying for them to WIN!)
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