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To: xzins
They DO, contrary to popular opinion, believe that humans are free moral agents.

Sorry, this violates the I and the P.

4,238 posted on 01/06/2007 8:29:12 PM PST by D-fendr
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To: D-fendr; Blogger

Not if you look at it in their manner.

A free moral agent has all the permission and revelation necessary to do the right thing. That doesn't mean that they will.

Irresistible Grace means that God unfailingly draws some as the only way that any could come. They cannot come of their own, because they're too absorbed in sin to want anything else. Sort of like druggies who'll die rather than quit their drug. It's not like they don't have a choice.

Perseverence of the saints is nothing more than the belief that those who've truly believed will hang in there and not give that faith up. It is not of themselves, but is itself based on God's gracious enlightenment & empowering. Yet, they are still free moral agents. Having been enlightened to the good, they keep pursuing it. Having the choice of a T-Bone or a mud-pie, they consistently choose to eat T-Bones.


4,241 posted on 01/06/2007 8:42:33 PM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and proud of it! Supporting our troops means praying for them to WIN!)
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