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To: xzins; D-fendr

My point to D-Fendr about free will is that on man's end, it is but an illusion. He is willfully bound up in his sin. It isn't God stopping Him. He is stopping Himself. He isn't truly free for he hasn't the Son.

It's kinda like the alcoholic who insists on drinking, knowing he can quit any time he wants. He wants his freedom, but doesn't realize he is in chains. He is in chains willingly. He loves his chains. Unless there is intervention, he will never be free. Doesn't mean that someone is keeping him there. He is keeping himself there.

The only true liberty is in Christ Jesus. Whom the Son has MADE FREE is FREE INDEED.


3,959 posted on 01/04/2007 8:53:06 PM PST by Blogger
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To: Blogger

This post hasn't nothing I can see to disagree with - other than the free will being an illusion.

Where we disagreed was in the "intervention" part.

If I understand you correctly, some are picked for intervention and some are not, and this choice is, as I put it, capricious - no difference in elect/non-elect in any way.

And I believe in your view man has no choice even to resist being intervened with (if that's proper grammar).

I see your subtle difference here, but I still think you end up forced to have the whimsical God in the end. And free will but an illusion.


3,961 posted on 01/04/2007 9:08:37 PM PST by D-fendr
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