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To: klossg; P-Marlowe; Blogger; HarleyD; blue-duncan; xzins; Gamecock; Alex Murphy; Forest Keeper; ...
Had Mary accomplished even half the things you falsely assume Catholic's believe and teach...

Believe me, it's enough of a blasphemy to say "Mary was sinless."

As Rome wants to be understood by Protestants, so, too, do Protestants want Rome to realize just how far we believe Marionology traipses into heresy.

One mediator; one savior; one sinless human being; one to hear our prayers; one to save our souls; one to take our sins and carry them forever; one Lamb slain before the world began for your acquittal and mine -- Jesus Christ.

3,646 posted on 01/03/2007 10:56:17 AM PST by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg; klossg; P-Marlowe; Blogger; HarleyD; blue-duncan; xzins; Gamecock; Alex Murphy; ...

Eph 4:5 one Lord, one faith, one baptism; 6 one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all.

Mary didn't make Paul's list here, did she?

The appearance of worshipping her makes most protestants a wee bit nervous.


3,647 posted on 01/03/2007 11:01:03 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and proud of it! Supporting our troops means praying for them to WIN!)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg; P-Marlowe; Blogger; Kolokotronis; jo kus; bornacatholic; kosta50
"it's enough of a blasphemy to say "Mary was sinless.""

Come on now! Why is this blasphemy? Christ cannot provide graces to Mary that He doesn't provide to others? I would denying Christ's ability to create Mary sinless through His graces is blasphemy. He provided graces to Moses to part the sea, provide water from a rock ... Why is it blasphemy to say Mary was sinless? Is sinless beyond 'death to all firstborn males'? If so, to what magnitude and by whose law and understanding? Mary is the Mother of God. She was made sinless by Christ, not herself. It is a grace from God. Moses was not the Mother of God and he received graces before Christ redeemed us all. Moses lead His people and accepted God's law but he did not give birth to The Word. Saying she was and is sinless is no blasphemy. God created all and redeemed everything, including Mary. What rule has God broken by accomplishing sinlessness in his mother?
3,661 posted on 01/03/2007 11:49:41 AM PST by klossg (GK - God is good!)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg; klossg; P-Marlowe; Blogger; HarleyD; blue-duncan; xzins; Gamecock; Alex Murphy; ...

" Believe me, it's enough of a blasphemy to say "Mary was sinless.""

"Blasphemy"? Oh, that's rich coming from a "protestant"!

"As Rome wants to be understood by Protestants, so, too, do Protestants want Rome to realize just how far we believe Marionology traipses into heresy."

Which Protestants, Dr.E? Arminians? Calvinists? various brands of Episcopalians? Anglo/Catholics? Jehovah's Witnesses, Baptists, Lutherans (ELCA, LCMS, LCWS) etc, etc? What do "Protestants" believe about Mary, Dr.E? Who in "Protestantism", in the "sola scriptura" world, determines what is and isn't heresy?

It is extremely hard for any of us in The Church to take anyone seriously when they say "Protestants believe...".


3,667 posted on 01/03/2007 12:08:59 PM PST by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated!)
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