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The problem arises in your description of the incarnation. Earlier you said "Since divine Christ was never born . . . " and "The Word" was never born." Notice that in both of your statements, you used the word "born". Now, above, you say, "was the Logos created of Mary or not?" Notice that you switched from "born" to "created". Those are two completely different concepts. (Perhaps that is the root of the difficulty here.)

OK, I think you're onto something. I was using those words interchangeably. Perhaps I should not have. :)

But Mary did give birth to the Logos, and is therefore the mother of the Logos. Giving birth to something is not the same as creating it.

I see and agree.

BTW, I don't think you are a Nestorian; I think you are simply trying to preserve an actual truth [the eternity and uncreatedness of each of the three Persons of the Trinity], ...

Thank you, and thanks for clearing this up. :) Thanks also to Kolo and Kosta for your comments. I never took any actual offense, I was just frustrated at not knowing how I brought this on myself. :) I think we're at the bottom of it now.

"...I was just frustrated at not knowing how I brought this on myself."

Like I suggested earlier, read +Athanasius "On the Incarnation". It will explain things pretty well. Then later we can start on +Gregory of Sinai, +Symeon the New Theologian and +Gregory Palamas to get a better feel for the Holy Trinity and theosis!

I was just frustrated at not knowing how I brought this on myself

The Holy Trinity and Christology are mind-boggling concepts which is why there are so many heresies. Do not think for a moment that you are the only one who considers himself a Christian who has not strayed into false thinking at one time or another.

I know I have had my own share of doubts and confusions, even when I though I had it "all right." And to this day my learning doesn't stop, for God is incoprehensible no matter how well we "understand" Him. The sin is not in being misled by your own logic, but by not repenting of your error when shown the mind-boggling revelation of God to His Church.