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To: adiaireton8
Let's see:

I desire broccoli at lunch time when I am hungry and in need of a nutritious meal, so that is an ordered desire.

However, after I have eaten the amount of calories that is healthy for me, I have a "disordered desire" if I desparately want that piece of chocolate cake and PASS ON IT?

After all, desires are not limited to sexual desires, are they?

Where as a protestant would say that I resisted temptation, your "Catholic view" would seem to indicate that I have a serious failing.

No wonder a Catholic friend of mine suffer from excessive scrupulosity. Every thought is practically a sin!

259 posted on 12/05/2006 6:06:42 PM PST by Texas_shutterbug
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To: Texas_shutterbug

Kind of depends on your general health; not just whether you are hungry or not. Fat people are more inclined to gluttony, just as alcoholics are inclined to drunkedness. An alcoholic before he takes his first drink is already disordered,


261 posted on 12/05/2006 6:15:21 PM PST by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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To: Texas_shutterbug
However, after I have eaten the amount of calories that is healthy for me, I have a "disordered desire" if I desparately want that piece of chocolate cake and PASS ON IT?

If you desire something you shouldn't have (at that time, in that place, in that way, to that degree, etc.) then whether you pass on it or not, you have a disordered desire. But it is not a sin to have disordered desires; it is a sin to *give in* to disordered desires. Having disordered desires is called concupiscence. According to the Catholic Church neither Adam and Eve (prior to the Fall), or Christ and Mary, had concupisence.

After all, desires are not limited to sexual desires, are they?

Correct.

Where as a protestant would say that I resisted temptation, your "Catholic view" would seem to indicate that I have a serious failing.

You have (in the example you gave) a disordered desire, which is not a sin, because it is not an act of your will. But it is a condition from which you (and I) need to be saved. No one in heaven has concupisence.

-A8

263 posted on 12/05/2006 6:24:29 PM PST by adiaireton8 ("There is no greater evil one can suffer than to hate reasonable discourse." - Plato, Phaedo 89d)
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