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To: Blogger
"I guess what this person is getting at is that there would be no God the Son without the incarnation. Thus, it is a denial of the eternal preexistence of the Son."

That's correct.

"Nevermind that the Bible refers to Him as the creator."

Creation included the incarnation. Before God decided to create, He was not a trinity. The eternal person of the Trinity is the Holy Spirit and the being of the Father that held that Spirit. It is the same Spirit that was incarnated.

"Nevermind that when earth was created, God said "Let US make...""

God is talking to Himself here, just as He did in the Gospels often. The human being that held the function and responsibility for God's Spirit in this world was Jesus. It is the same with a man and His soul that provides for the function of eternal spirit.

The man, from his own free will determines the character and makeup of his spirit and thus the destiny of his soul. Man is in the image and likeness of God. He is also a trinity. The man is the right hand man of his soul.

2,472 posted on 12/20/2006 11:04:14 AM PST by spunkets
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To: spunkets
The eternal person of the Trinity is the Holy Spirit and the being of the Father that held that Spirit. It is the same Spirit that was incarnated.

This is just an example of the kind of error people fall into when they leave the guidance of the Sacred Magisterium, and attempt to interpret Scripture on their own.

-A8

2,475 posted on 12/20/2006 11:16:53 AM PST by adiaireton8 ("There is no greater evil one can suffer than to hate reasonable discourse." - Plato, Phaedo 89d)
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To: spunkets
The man, from his own free will determines the character and makeup of his spirit and thus the destiny of his soul.

That is anti-Scriptural.

"But God, who is rich in mercy, for his great love wherewith he loved us,

Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved;)

And hath raised us up together, and made us sit together in heavenly places in Christ Jesus:

That in the ages to come he might shew the exceeding riches of his grace in his kindness toward us through Christ Jesus.

For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:

Not of works, lest any man should boast.

For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them." -- Ephesians 2:4-10

Man is in the image and likeness of God.

Pre-Fall, that statement is correct. Post-Fall, man is in rebellion against God.

"And you hath he quickened, who were dead in trespasses and sins;

Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience:

Among whom also we all had our conversation in times past in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind; and were by nature the children of wrath, even as others." -- Ephesians 2:1-3

He (man) is also a trinity. The man is the right hand man of his soul.

That is heresy.

What faith do you follow?

2,480 posted on 12/20/2006 11:33:41 AM PST by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: spunkets
Creation included the incarnation. Before God decided to create, He was not a trinity. The eternal person of the Trinity is the Holy Spirit and the being of the Father that held that Spirit. It is the same Spirit that was incarnated

John begs to differ: ""All things came into being by Him, and apart from Him nothing came into being that has come into being."

Are you a Jehovah's Witness???
2,497 posted on 12/20/2006 1:49:43 PM PST by Blogger
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