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To: Blogger
Um, who are you to think your personal opinions - and numerous errors in sola scriptura - are normative?

The actual Bible Teaches Jesus established His Church upon Peter, not you.

The actual Bible Teaches the Church is Jesus (see what He said to Saul)

The actual Bible Teaches Who hears you hears me

And, yet here you come trying to bring us another Gospel...

Blogger, what does the actual Bible teach about one who comes bringing another Gospel?

2,385 posted on 12/20/2006 3:11:16 AM PST by bornacatholic
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To: bornacatholic
borncatholic The CONFESSION of Peter was what Christ established His church upon, else the rock that Christ built His church upon is dead and buried.

See these comments by some folks you may recognize. Are they preachers of another Gospel as well?

"'And I say unto thee, Thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my Church;' that is, on the faith of his confession." (A Library of the Fathers of the Holy Catholic Church, Oxford: Parker, 1844; Homilies of S. John Chrysostom on the Gospel of Matthew, Homily 54.3)

Cyril of Alexandria (d. 444 A.D.) wrote: "Now by the word 'rock,' Jesus indicated I think the immovable faith of the disciple." (Commentary on Isaiah IV.2, M.P.G., Vol. 70, Col 940.)

Because thou hast said unto me, 'thou art the Christ the Son of the living God;' I also say unto thee, 'Thou art Peter.' For before he was called Simon. Now this name of Peter was given him by the Lord, and in a figure, that he should signify the Church. For seeing that Christ is the rock (Petra), Peter is the Christian people. For the rock (Petra) is the original name. Therefore Peter is also called from the rock; not the rock from Peter; as Christ is not called Christ from the Christian, but the Christian from Christ. Therefore he saith, 'Thou art Peter and upon this rock' which thou hast confessed, upon this rock which thou hast acknowledged, saying, 'Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God' will I build my Church' that is upon Myself, the Son of the living God, 'will I build My Church.' I will build thee upon me, not myself upon thee . . . For men who wished to be built upon men, said 'I am of Paul; and I am of Apollos; and I of Cephas,' who is Peter. But others did not wish to be built upon Peter, but upon the Rock, said,'But I am of Christ.' And when the Apostle Paul ascertained that he was chosen, and Christ despised, he said, 'Is Christ divided? Was Paul crucified for you? Or were ye baptized in the name of Paul?' And, as not in the name of Paul, so neither in the name of Peter; but in the name of Christ.; that Peter might be built upon the Rock, not the Rock upon Peter." (Philip Schaff, Nicene and Post-Nicene Fathers, Grand Rapids: Eerdmans, 1956, Volume VI, St. Augustine, Sermon XXV!.1-2, p. 340)

The church is the Bride of Christ. It is NOT Christ. Jesus doesn't say that the church is Himself. The RC Religion calls Mary the church as well. The church is the makeup of all believers everywhere in every century. Of course, you will not hear this because you have shut your ears off to anything but what has been drilled into your head.

As to who I think I am, I am a believer in the Lord Jesus Christ who takes Him at His word. My question is, who are you to think that we shouldn't? He said the Holy Spirit would guide us into all things. John said we have no need of a teacher to teach us these things. Repeatedly we are commanded to search the Scriptures and told what the Scriptures say. Other than one debatable incident that I can recall, all appeals are made to Scripture. Scripture is where we will find the truth.
2,392 posted on 12/20/2006 5:32:19 AM PST by Blogger
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