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To: P-Marlowe; spunkets; Blogger; xzins; Buggman; blue-duncan; Dr. Eckleburg
If you don't think so, then you'll have to explain how Jesus existed, before He was born.

My roomate, who isn't even a believer, says he thinks that's covered in John 1:1 or something like that. Anyone care to look it up to check?

2,360 posted on 12/19/2006 11:23:48 PM PST by Buggman (http://brit-chadasha.blogspot.com)
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To: Buggman; spunkets; Blogger; xzins; blue-duncan; Dr. Eckleburg
My roomate, who isn't even a believer, says he thinks that's covered in John 1:1 or something like that. Anyone care to look it up to check?

At any rate here is the definitive verse from the mouth of our Lord:

(John 8:58 KJV) Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.

It is simply amazing the kind of weird stuff people will believe when they abandon scripture in favor of tradition.

I have never heard this teaching before spunkets posted these little comments: "God would not be a trinity, unless He was born of woman."... "In order for God to be a trinity, the man part must exist."

That is some weird stuff. Is this some kind of Catholic Catechism? Or is this new to everyone else too?

2,362 posted on 12/19/2006 11:32:25 PM PST by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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Re: If you don't think so, then you'll have to explain how Jesus existed, before He was born.

"My roomate, who isn't even a believer, says he thinks that's covered in John 1:1 or something like that. Anyone care to look it up to check?"

John 1:1, "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God."

We're discussing the Trinity here, or the concept of trinity in general. John 1:1 says that Jesus is God, just as Jesus said in John 10:30. Now God's incarnation had a beginning. It was when Jesus was born. That event is also the beginning of the Trinity.

2,364 posted on 12/19/2006 11:39:50 PM PST by spunkets
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