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To: jo kus

I read the why and understand the why. I've also explained why I object to her being called Mother of God. My objection has to do with God's eternal pre-existence to Mary and the non-biblical nature of the title. Of course Christ was God in her womb. But she did not beget God. Jesus was God before during and after the incarnation. I am not denying the deity of Christ, nor the unity of His Godhood with His manhood. I just find the term "Mother of God" misleading. When it needs to be explained so much, it isn't clear on the surface. The Bible calls her the Mother of Jesus. That's where I take my stand, and then explain who Jesus Is, was and evermore shall be.

I do not hold Mary as any more holy than the Bible depicts her to be, though I do respect her for who she was - blessed among women and the Mother of Jesus.


2,124 posted on 12/19/2006 8:11:05 AM PST by Blogger
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To: Blogger
Jesus was God before during and after the incarnation.

Well, the person who "BECAME" Jesus was God "before" the Incarnation, but the resulting Hypostatic Union between God's Nature and ours, which resulted in Jesus, was technically not God before hand because what we know as Jesus didn't exist yet. The Logos, the Word of God, did not possess a human nature, so there was no "Jesus Christ". The result of the Incarnation is Jesus, which did NOT pre-exist Mary. Thus, "Jesus" did not pre-exist Mary. When we say "Jesus", we are referring to the Incarnated God, not His state of existence "before".

On the other hand, note, I place terms of time in quotes because I am speaking humanly. In God's "time", there is no past or future, only NOW. What God "was", He currently "is". Somehow, then, the Christ ALWAYS exists, since God transcends time.

I just find the term "Mother of God" misleading.

It is a term that clarifies who Christ was/is. Mary was not merely the mother of the Messiah. Stopping there avoids the implications of the Incarnation and the Hypostatic Union. While you may say you understand fully who Christ is without the title for Mary, I think that is double speak; saying one thing and meaning something else. We say what we mean. And thus, Mary IS the MOTHER OF GOD.

I do not hold Mary as any more holy than the Bible depicts her to be, though I do respect her for who she was - blessed among women and the Mother of Jesus.

Everything that Mary was is a result of God Himself. Enjoy His creation of Mary! Would you throw away the greatest plate of food put in front of you because it is "too good"? We honor God's greatest work when we honor Mary. We merely are doing what God is doing - and what God commands us to do (ALL generations will call "me" blessed).

Regards

2,134 posted on 12/19/2006 9:07:58 AM PST by jo kus (Humility is present when one debases oneself without being obliged to do so- St.Chrysostom; Phil 2:8)
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