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To: Blogger

Jesus is God. God is Omnipresent. Jesus is Omnipresent. He by his very nature is not bound by our elements of space and time

The Bible says He left and that He will return. He also left the Holy Spirit in His stead. Are you saying the Bible says otherwise or do you just like to counter anything I say?

2,036 posted on 12/18/2006 5:56:12 PM PST by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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To: kosta50; Blogger
Jesus is God, but after the Incarnation he is God and man. That is the great mystery, and the most wonderful one. The Word became flesh, and dwelt among us. God entered time and became true Man. Jesus is God and Man, and entered into time at a specific point. He was born, grew up, and lived at a defined point and time. He was sinless, but suffered the afflictions common to this world. His friends died, He was beaten, and He died.

Jesus, True God, and True Man, was nailed to an instrument of torture and killed in a manner reserved for the most debased criminals of the time. Jesus, True God, and True Man, died. He died for our sins, and to redeem us. He died. He descended into Hades. And on the third day He came back. Christ was born, Christ died, and Christ will come again!

Jesus entered into time as God and Man. For that, every day, I am thankful.
2,037 posted on 12/18/2006 6:07:34 PM PST by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: kosta50

When what you say is wrong. I will counter it.

Yes, Jesus left. Yes He will return. But, as God He isn't bound by space and time. He is here even now. You can't get away from him. He isn't on some planet someplace. He is right here.

Whither shall I go from thy spirit? or whither shall I flee from thy presence? If I ascend into heaven, thou art there: if I make my bed in hell, behold, thou art there. If I take the wings of the morning, and dwell in the uttermost parts of the sea; even there shall thy hand lead me, and thy right hand shall hold me" (Psalms 139:7-10).

And lo, I am with you alway, even to the end of the world" (Matthew 28:18).

"Heaven is my throne, and earth is my footstool. Where is the house that you will build Me? And where is the place of My rest?" (Isaiah 66:1).

Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil: for thou art with me; thy rod and thy staff they comfort me" (Psalms 23:4).

"Because He is at my right hand, I shall not be moved" (Psalms 16:8).

When thou passest through the waters, I will be with thee; and through the rivers, they shall not overflow thee...For I am the Lord thy God, the Holy One of Israel..." (Isaiah 43:2,3).

So YES. Jesus left and will return again some day. But, as God, He is here with us now. His return will be physical. Yet His presence is here even now.

The ministering aspect of the Holy Spirit is what is active on earth right now. Jesus "withdrew" Himself in order that the Spirit might minister. Does not mean that Jesus as God went away. God doesn't leave us. He doesn't forsake us. He is a prayer away as they say, and not even that. He's with us when we can't even pray.


2,051 posted on 12/18/2006 7:18:40 PM PST by Blogger
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