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To: Blogger
Oh, sorry. I suppose yu never butted in. Not too long ago I was reminded that this is a public forum. If you do not want butt-ins, there is Freeper Mail option. :)

I can answer it

Please do. And while you are at it, please also explain how can God fill the whole universe, know what everyone thinks, will think, or thought, from before all times and other attributes of ineffable, unlimited, eternal God. I didn't volunteer, I simply asked that you don't ask what you yourself can't answe. Because I don't believe you. Get it? To EXPLAIN: to make plain or clear; render understandable or intelligible, to make known in detail.

For if you do, and I don't believe you, you will be the first human who has "explained" God in His nature.

The nature of Deity is incomprehensible. Adam and Eve thorught otherwise. They believed that if they get a little knoweldge of good and evil they will know what is good and what is evil, and "be just like gods."

1,921 posted on 12/18/2006 12:23:46 PM PST by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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To: kosta50

Thank you for your answer. It was EXACTLY what I was looking for here.

My question was "Why do you believe in the doctrine of the trinity?" I further asked A8, in non-theological terms to explain the doctrine. You see, the reason I wanted non-theological terms is because anyone can copy down some formula set up by some council someplace long ago. But it doesn't explain why you believe it nor can it explain the truly unexplainable such as God's nature.

The correct answer I believe for all Christians is that we accept by faith the doctrine of trinity. If there is One and only one God and there are three persons called God in Scripture, then we accept by faith the biblical doctrine of the trinity. In the same way, if Jesus is 100% fully man and 100% fully God and yet only one person – then you accept by faith the biblical doctrine of the person of Christ. Neither can be satisfactorily explained in their mechanics, for some things are simply unknowable to human beings. Yet, this doesn't make them any less true.

Likewise, Jesus is one person of the Godhead. In his incarnation, he took on a nature that became completely unified with His Godhood to where he became 100% God and 100% Man. As God, he had no mother. He had no beginning so he could not have had a mother – as God. As man, he had a mother. Her name was Mary.

In just the same way that Jesus can be 100% God and 100% Man and still be one person (not two) – in this same way, Mary could be mother of Christ’s humanity, while still not negating his eternal preexistence as God. The incarnation was when God became a man yet still remained God. He was, is and is to come forever God. But, through Mary’s womb and the Holy Spirit’s power, He also became 100% man – all in one. He was a God-Man. This is a mystery to us, but we believe it because it is Scriptural.

Was the person that Mary gave birth to God? Absolutely. Was Mary the mother of God. No because she would have to be the mother of the Father and the Spirit as well since God is inseparably one. She was mother to the God-Man, Jesus Christ, and provided humanity for Him. She did not contribute even an ounce to his Divinity since he was already divine, was as divine as He ever would be or ever will be.

Mary was the mother of Jesus – just as the Bible says. If you say that calling her the mother of Jesus is heresy because it is somehow denying the divinity of Jesus – then you are saying that the Bible itself is heretical for it would be denying his divinity by calling Him that very name.

Mary, Mother of Jesus and blessed among women. That’s as far as Scripture goes and that is far as I go. To do anything else would truly be opening up Pandora’s box of heresies as can be seen with the development of Mariology in the church.


1,924 posted on 12/18/2006 12:35:47 PM PST by Blogger
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