[Blogger]

"The teachings of the church say what you are saying is heresy. But hey nobody is accusing you of being a heretic." is not word games?

Okay then, I believe that what sitetest said is dishonest, but nobody is accusing Sitetest of actually being a Dishonest person.

[sitetest]

Dear Blogger,

"Okay then, I believe that what sitetest said is dishonest, but nobody is accusing Sitetest of actually being a Dishonest person."

Could be.

Sitetest may be saying things that aren't true, that are even deceitful. However, it may be that sitetest is unaware of the untruth of the things he says, or unaware that the source of those things was being dishonest.

Or even further, it may be that sitetest has some inkling of the dishonesty of what he's saying, but someone has a gun to his family's collective heads, and has said, "Say these dishonest things, or I'll kill your family."

Then, we might say, at most, that sitetest is being materially dishonest, but it would be difficult to say that sitetest is a dishonest person.

I hesitate to explore the meanings of the words "heresy" and "heretic," at least from a Catholic position, here in this thread because I think it's kind of off-topic.

But properly speaking, in the precise language of the Church, formal heretics unrepentant at death are damned. Folks who merely utter heresies may well belong to other categories.


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