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To: Blogger; D-fendr

"But, God is eternally preexistant - therefore, to say Mary is the Mother of God throws unnecessary confusion into the matter. "

B, why do you say that calling her the Theotokos throws in any kind of confusion, unnecessary or otherwise? Are you suggesting that she gave birth to the human person of Christ and not the divine?

"Mary is not Divine"

The Church has never, ever taught that.


1,650 posted on 12/17/2006 2:03:52 PM PST by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated!)
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To: Kolokotronis

She was the human element. God, having created humans, could have done something without human agency I suppose, and still have become a human. But, He chose to use a woman. He did not cease being God in the interim between His enthronement in Heaven and his gestation in Mary's womb. Therefore, no. She didn't give birth to the divine person of Christ in the sense that she caused him to exist. Since God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit are one, and God was still 100% God even at the moment of conception - no, I don't believe Mary gave birth to God since giving birth implies that God had a beginning. The human part of Jesus had a beginning. But even before conception, He was already God.

I know the church has never officially taught Mary as divine (though it has come mighty close with some of its doctrines- speaking of RC church here); but my point in calling her "Mother of God" is that there was absolutely NOTHING that Mary did to contribute to Jesus's divinity. Zilch. She contributed to his humanity, but not his divinity since she had no divinity in and of herself to contribute.


1,664 posted on 12/17/2006 7:17:27 PM PST by Blogger
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