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To: .30Carbine; Forest Keeper
It is God's Will that we pray. Nuff said

There is only one instance that God commanded us "thus you should pray" and there is but one Prayer that He gives us to pray. That Prayer is pure supplication, because the Jews believed that prayers do change outcomes (cf Isa 38:5), and to a Jew and to Orthodox Christians, prayers make sense.

My point was based on the flawed Reformed theology of double predestination which makes any prayer a useless repetition, because prayers in a doubly predestined world cannot change the outcome God predestined.

What exactly is your point in that context?

15,612 posted on 06/08/2007 5:43:48 AM PDT by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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To: kosta50
What exactly is your point in that context?

That time in prayer is the fulfilling of the will of God.

15,635 posted on 06/09/2007 2:34:37 AM PDT by .30Carbine (Sacrifice is not always simple...but let it always be glorious, holy, and good, amen.)
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To: kosta50; .30Carbine; HarleyD
There is only one instance that God commanded us "thus you should pray" and there is but one Prayer that He gives us to pray. That Prayer is pure supplication, ...

What? No Way! :) When you pray "Our Father who art in Heaven, hallowed be thy name. Thy Kingdom come, thy will be done", are you making a request as if it might not happen but for your prayer and others??? Of course not. The point of that is for you to ACKNOWLEDGE your UNDERSTANDING of His power. PRAISE and thanksgiving is an instrumental part of prayer, at least to me. Do you think God's Kingdom might not come unless we pray for it? Do you think that God's will might not be done but for our prayers? Come on! :) That is not supplication. That is worship.

My point was based on the flawed Reformed theology of double predestination which makes any prayer a useless repetition, because prayers in a doubly predestined world cannot change the outcome God predestined.

Prayers do NOT change God's will according to us Reformed, that is true. That has nothing to do with whether prayer is worthy or not. IF you think the main point of prayer is to "get stuff", then we pray for very different reasons. :)

15,694 posted on 06/19/2007 10:59:57 PM PDT by Forest Keeper (It is a joy to me to know that God had my number, before He created numbers.)
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