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To: HarleyD; kosta50; jo kus

There is a place where there is no free will.
That place is hell.Once someone is in hell they lose the ability to love and there is nothing they can do to ever please God. Total Depravity it is basically hell


15,542 posted on 06/05/2007 7:01:17 PM PDT by stfassisi ("Above all gifts that Christ gives his beloved is that of overcoming self"St Francis Assisi)
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To: stfassisi; HarleyD; jo kus
There is a place where there is no free will. That place is hell.Once someone is in hell they lose the ability to love and there is nothing they can do to ever please God. Total Depravity it is basically hell

Well said.

15,544 posted on 06/05/2007 7:09:19 PM PDT by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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To: stfassisi; kosta50; jo kus
There is a place where there is no free will. That place is hell.

On the contrary. While I haven't thought this through entirely, I would submit to you that hell is the ONLY place there is free will. Beings will be totally free to live in utter torment apart from God. Like the Eygptians who groped in the darkness for three days, so will people who go to hell.

OTOH, those who will be received into God's kingdom are those who are willing to serve Him fully and completely. They relequish any will they have to become full slaves of the living God. There is no free will in heaven. There is only the will of the Father.

15,559 posted on 06/06/2007 4:25:18 AM PDT by HarleyD
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