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To: HarleyD; Forest Keeper; annalex; Kolokotronis; Dr. Eckleburg; kawaii; jo kus; adiaireton8
To say that "historical facts indicate to the contrary" is to simply contradict, not only fundamental Christian teaching but the Church's teaching as well. I would suggest you read the Orthodox's view on inspired writings

I suggest you read Codex Sinaiticus and tell me why are there two noncanonical books in it! Your claim that all the churches intrinsically read the same books is false, false and false. It's a myth!

The "Church" came to a consensus what books will be used. It was a decision of the hierarchs, plain and simple.

Eusebius, the first Church historian writes (c. 300 AD) about "disputed" writings (the Epistle of James, Jude and 2 Peter and 2 and 3 John!). Disputed in 300 AD?

The Church in Constantinople listed as "disputed" books the Shepherd of Hermes the Apokalypse of Peter and the Apocalpypse of John as late 9th century AD!

It was the Church in Rome of all places that disputed the book of Hebrews because it was not written by +Paul and therefore lacked the necessary apostolic authorship (which it does actually lack because the author is unknown!).

Today, we know that our Holy Bible has been corrupted by additions and deletions. Notable additions are Mark 16:9-20; Luke 22:19b-20,43-44; John 7:53-8:11 (the famous Pericope Adulterae) and 1 John 5:7b–8a (the famous Comma Johanneuum).

I suggest you learn about the bible as much as you may have read from it. You may be surprised what the facts have to say.

To summarize: different Churches read different books, ignored other books, doubted some, etc. The only thing that is certain with respect to the NT canon before it was officially proclaimed at the end of the 4th century is that it was consistently inconsistent.

15,520 posted on 06/04/2007 8:20:59 PM PDT by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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To: kosta50; Forest Keeper; annalex; Kolokotronis; Dr. Eckleburg; kawaii; jo kus; adiaireton8
I suggest you learn about the bible as much as you may have read from it. You may be surprised what the facts have to say....Today, we know that our Holy Bible has been corrupted by additions and deletions.

And I would suggest that you learn about the official teaching of the Orthodox Church on the scriptures.

While I don't necessarily subscribe to the above interpretation, the Orthodox view the scriptures as God's supreme revelation to man. I wouldn't be telling everyone that that scriptures are full of holes, corrupted with additions and deletions, when the Orthodox Church states that the scriptures are God's supreme revelation to man. You're in conflict with your Church's views and traditions, not mine.
15,527 posted on 06/05/2007 5:17:44 AM PDT by HarleyD
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