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To: kosta50; annalex; Kolokotronis; Dr. Eckleburg; HarleyD; kawaii; jo kus; adiaireton8
My point was that if [the hierarchy] collectively did not know the fullness of revealed God's truth, it would have been impossible for them to know which books were inspired and which were not, and therefore the Bible would be a guesswork. On the other hand, if they were led by the Holy Spirit in their discernment, then you have no authority to dismiss them or their authority as successors of the Apostles.

OK, so to put you and Kolo together, after the Council was done, the laity accepted their discernment. I would say the same laity had accepted the vast majority of it already, before the Council met. Sure, the Spirit led the hierarchs to get all the exact books right, but what does this have to do with accepting their authority as successors of the Apostles? The Spirit leads ALL BELIEVERS, including those of the Council. While this was certainly an important event, it was by no means unique as to whom the Spirit leads.

15,497 posted on 06/04/2007 3:33:07 AM PDT by Forest Keeper (It is a joy to me to know that God had my number, before He created numbers.)
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To: Forest Keeper; annalex; Kolokotronis; Dr. Eckleburg; HarleyD; kawaii; jo kus; adiaireton8
OK, so to put you and Kolo together, after the Council was done, the laity accepted their discernment. I would say the same laity had accepted the vast majority of it already, before the Council met. Sure, the Spirit led the hierarchs to get all the exact books right, but what does this have to do with accepting their authority as successors of the Apostles? The Spirit leads ALL BELIEVERS, including those of the Council. While this was certainly an important event, it was by no means unique as to whom the Spirit leads

I think you have twisted Kolo's words into something he did not intend them to be. An orthodox laity, living an established faith, is different from laity being "led" by the Holy Spirit into accepting the Bible.

If so, then God really did not want Israel to accept His Son as their Savior. It is curious why Gentiles did believe (not all of course) and Jews, save for a small percentage of them, did not.

The refusal of the laity and lower clergy to accept the false re-union of Florence is a documented fact. Your claim that laity somehow had anything to do with acceptance and even makeup of the Christian canon is not.

15,500 posted on 06/04/2007 6:19:39 AM PDT by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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