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To: Ping-Pong
Isn't it strange how there can be one God and that one God's letter to us can splinter into such an assortment of groups with all the various groups believing they are correct?

That is because humans interpret that one sacred book. People take different views to the table when they read it. Different things strike their fancy, and so, they emphasize some things while overlooking others. Yes, it is sad that this happens. That is why I find authority personally a comforting thing in this case.

Although it isn't necessary for salvation we must be certain we don't do something that takes or keeps salvation from us.

I totally agree. It is comforting that you realize that salvation can be lost, some do not believe that.

God does not want false teaching in His House. Many may feel they are being very religious, as I'm sure those in Ezekiel 8 were being. It was no excuse to God. He starts with those "ancient men", those that teach in His sanctuary but He does not absolve the others that listened to them, even the little children. He "will not hear them"

So to me, upon reading those verses, I would not trust my eternal life, nor that of my family, friends or anyone I come in contact with, including those on Free Republic, with the teachings of any man or church or religion. This has nothing to do with Protestant or Catholic

Fair enough. Before I analyzed the various sects and beliefs of Christianity, I also felt that way, as well. By nature, I am a non-conformist (which is funny, because now I am Catholic!) and I do not take authority from others lightly. However, when I put it to the test, especially the historical continuity between the Bible and Catholicism, I found that I had no choice, if I was to be true to myself, that I must be a Catholic. THAT was how I was to honor and worship God, the Catholic way, the way that I believe Christ established. This does not belittle your particular decision, but that is why I did what I did. I believe I am following my conscience while I kept myself open to the various messages coming from the different sects.

I think we must follow our conscience that is properly trained. We should learn as much as we can about other means of coming to God and be willing to move there if we find there is more truth there. Because I believe that the Church is the continuation of Christ's Church and is guided by the Spirit, I trust that God will CONTINUE to guide the Church into all truth. Thus, I have a reliable guide.

I suppose the different interpretations just make it all the more interesting. Perhaps we should remember, as we search the scriptures and listen to our teachers, that if it does not agree with His Word - get away from it, no matter how much you love the interpretation or the one giving it.

As long as we are not so stubborn to admit that HE may be correct and I am wrong! This is what happens in religious pride, one of the worse and most difficult sins to realize one is committing. The Pharisees really thought they had the correct interpretation and were following God, but in hindsight, we realize that they adhered to the letter of the Law rather than the Spirit. Who can say if we are doing the same thing? Thus, we should be open to Truth and be prepared to become humble if we find something makes more sense or if we feel God calling us to accept a teaching.

What we should keep in mind is that the first Christians were adamant about keeping the "deposit of faith". They were very wary of people who deviated from the faith once given. Thus, you are correct, we should be wary of false teachers - but we should also realize what the reference point IS for the correct teachings - the Church, not me.

Thanks for the interesting conversation.

Brother in Christ

15,423 posted on 05/29/2007 5:22:57 PM PDT by jo kus (Humility is present when one debases oneself without being obliged to do so- St.Chrysostom; Phil 2:8)
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To: jo kus
By nature, I am a non-conformist (which is funny, because now I am Catholic!) and I do not take authority from others lightly.

I'm the opposite in that I am a conformist. I like to be part of things and, as a middle child, have always been the peace maker. I do take authority well so when I write opposing views here it does not come easy.

I believe I am following my conscience while I kept myself open to the various messages coming from the different sects.

That is all one can do - if we are honest with ourselves.

We should learn as much as we can about other means of coming to God and be willing to move there if we find there is more truth there.....As long as we are not so stubborn to admit that HE may be correct and I am wrong!.... This is what happens in religious pride, one of the worse and most difficult sins to realize one is committing

Words of wisdom and, as you said, very difficult to do.

Thanks for the interesting conversation.

You are most welcome. I also enjoyed the conversation.

Your sister in Christ

...Ping

15,432 posted on 05/30/2007 5:47:08 AM PDT by Ping-Pong
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