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Oh, I greatly respect folks who have been more spiritually on beam with God’s highest for their lives and with God’s priorities in general . . . than I’ve managed to be.

But I still recognize them as fallible human beings.

I’ve been close to or observed at close range, rather, a number of ‘spiritual giants’ of my era. Some deserved the label. A lot didn’t.

15,324 posted on 05/27/2007 9:55:31 PM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)

Oh, I greatly respect folks who have been more spiritually on beam with God’s highest for their lives and with God’s priorities in general . . . than I’ve managed to be. But I still recognize them as fallible human beings.

Well, that is not what you said recently...

All that to say . . . I’m not very impressed by “holy men” who have any sort of titles

Apparently, titles cause you to turn up your nose towards an otherwise "holy man"? Odd. My experience is that titles do not make the man, and we shouldn't judge them just because they have a title. Thus, I am impressed by holy men, WHETHER THEY HAVE A TITLE OR NOT.

15,333 posted on 05/27/2007 10:38:44 PM PDT by jo kus (Humility is present when one debases oneself without being obliged to do so- St.Chrysostom; Phil 2:8)