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To: Mad Dawg
A serious heresy arose from this sect, the cult which teaches that Bluto and Popeye are actual different avatars of the same Divine principle, Olive Oyl, whose love "moves the sun and other stars."

LOL! Funny. Here is something written 1800 years ago by St. Irenaeus that I found equally hilarious.

There is a certain Proarche, royal, surpassing all thought, a power existing before every other substance, and extended into space in every direction. But along with it there exists a power which I term a Gourd; and along with this Gourd there exists a power which again I term Utter-Emptiness. This Gourd and Emptiness, since they are one, produced (and yet did not simply produce, so as to be apart from themselves) a fruit, everywhere visible, eatable, and delicious, which fruit-language calls a Cucumber. Along with this Cucumber exists a power of the same essence, which again I call a Melon. These powers, the Gourd, Utter-Emptiness, the Cucumber, and the Melon, brought forth the remaining multitude of the delirious melons of Valentinus. (LOL!!!) For if it is fitting that that language which is used respecting the universe be transformed to the primary Tetrad, and if any one may assign names at his pleasure, who shall prevent us from adopting these names, as being much more credible [than the others], as well as in general use, and understood by all?

(St. Irenaeus, Against Heresies, Book 1, Chapter 11)

Seems that sarcasm was part of his weaponry vs. the Gnostics.

Regards

15,210 posted on 05/25/2007 10:20:56 AM PDT by jo kus (Humility is present when one debases oneself without being obliged to do so- St.Chrysostom; Phil 2:8)
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To: kosta50
Kosta,

I thought you might like a break from your heavy-duty theologizing of our separated brothers. I forgot to include you in the reply.

There is a certain Proarche, royal, surpassing all thought, a power existing before every other substance, and extended into space in every direction. But along with it there exists a power which I term a Gourd; and along with this Gourd there exists a power which again I term Utter-Emptiness. This Gourd and Emptiness, since they are one, produced (and yet did not simply produce, so as to be apart from themselves) a fruit, everywhere visible, eatable, and delicious, which fruit-language calls a Cucumber. Along with this Cucumber exists a power of the same essence, which again I call a Melon. These powers, the Gourd, Utter-Emptiness, the Cucumber, and the Melon, brought forth the remaining multitude of the delirious melons of Valentinus. (LOL!!!) For if it is fitting that that language which is used respecting the universe be transformed to the primary Tetrad, and if any one may assign names at his pleasure, who shall prevent us from adopting these names, as being much more credible [than the others], as well as in general use, and understood by all?

(St. Irenaeus, Against Heresies, Book 1, Chapter 11)

Seems that sarcasm was part of his weaponry vs. the Gnostics.

Regards

15,211 posted on 05/25/2007 10:24:04 AM PDT by jo kus (Humility is present when one debases oneself without being obliged to do so- St.Chrysostom; Phil 2:8)
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To: jo kus
That is just SEW politically incorrect!

Funny how different ages have different ways of explaining away the very thought of a God who is truly born, truly lives, truly suffers, and truly dies and now is risen.

Long before we had a supreme court we had penumbras and emanations.

15,222 posted on 05/25/2007 12:25:38 PM PDT by Mad Dawg (I will gladly pay you Tuesday for a hamburger today.)
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