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To: hosepipe; betty boop; Alamo-Girl

Christ said “I shall build my Church”, singular. St. Paul asked, rhetorically, “Is Christ divided?”. There is one Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church as defined by the baptism and the Creed. Christ revealed nothing to the “denominations”.


15,066 posted on 05/23/2007 4:15:04 PM PDT by annalex
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To: annalex; betty boop; Alamo-Girl
[.. Christ said “I shall build my Church”, singular ..]

True.. no denomination is the whole church.. the RCC is indeed a denomination.. The Eastern Orthodox are also a denomination.. as are the so-called "reformed".. The Lords table is an excuse for all manner of heretics to get together and put up with each other, pure genius really, absolute pure genius..

Even the christian cults are members of "the Church".. John ch 10 indicates Jesus said "my sheep hear MY voice".. not the voice of the hireling..

For Jesus is the gate of the sheep pen, its not Jesus fault certain sheep are afraid to come out of the sheep pen.. What sheep pen?.. Oh! there are many.. That think sheep in a different sheep pen(other than their pen) are heretics.. I left the sheep pen long ago.. but I have nothing against those in the "pens".. Actually thats where they NEED to be..

ONLY scripture can be trusted.. with the Holy Spirits help.. for thats WHY Jesus left the Holy Spirit in charge.. not the hireling.. Not scripture only but scripture plus the Holy Spirit.. The Holy Spirit is watching all of us.. sheep pen or not.. Sin against the Holy Spirit is sin indeed.. be careful..

15,074 posted on 05/23/2007 5:22:40 PM PDT by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole....)
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To: annalex; Alamo-Girl; hosepipe; Quix; HarleyD
Christ said “I shall build my Church”, singular. St. Paul asked, rhetorically, “Is Christ divided?”. There is one Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church as defined by the baptism and the Creed. Christ revealed nothing to the “denominations”.

We do not see as God sees, annalex; we do not understand as God understands. Of what specific or particular human materials Christ is building His Church, this we do not know for certain fact. What we do confidently know is that Christ is not "divided." And because He is not divided, He is the true Rock on which we can confidently and safely stand.

We apply human logic to the Holy Scriptures. Yet we have no assurance that logic is sufficient to explicate the Holy Word of God that He has revealed unto us in His four tremendous revelations....

All things considered, we are called to Love first and foremost. Understanding is a gift of the Holy Spirit, and probably not something "once-given," but something that lives and grows in us who follow Christ....

Given all the above, I hesitate to argue with my Christian brethren, even if I "disagree" with them. Christ knows what is best, not I. And we are called to caritas regardless of our creedal confession if we are truly Christian....

15,110 posted on 05/24/2007 6:42:03 AM PDT by betty boop ("Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind." -- A. Einstein.)
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To: annalex
Christ revealed nothing to the “denominations”.

I would offer as a substitute, "Christ did not promise to reveal anything to the 'denominations'."

15,111 posted on 05/24/2007 6:46:18 AM PDT by Mad Dawg
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