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To: adiaireton8; Dr. Eckleburg
The relevant difference is that Catholics do not claim to know the reprobate/election [to glory] status of anyone [including infants] while they are on this earth.

The Calvinist's ground for assurance, by contrast, requires knowing the status of one's election [for glory].


14,960 posted on 05/22/2007 10:00:34 AM PDT by HarleyD
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To: HarleyD
Calvinists, to my knowledge, do not claim to know the [election] status of anyone except themselves

Then, as I pointed out to Dr. E., by their own doctrine Calvinists can have no assurance that their baptized infant is saved. Their "trust" is actually only "hope".

You can hardly bash Dr. E over the head when your Church holds a more radical view.

I have not "bashed Dr. E. over the head". I have pointed out a contradiction in her theology. I have not criticized her position for being "radical", whatever exactly that is supposed to mean. Of course the Catholic position is extraordinary and mind-boggling. The very gospel is foolishness to the 'wise'. But that is no refutation of it. A contradiction on the other hand, is a serious problem.

-A8

14,962 posted on 05/22/2007 10:39:04 AM PDT by adiaireton8 ("There is no greater evil one can suffer than to hate reasonable discourse." - Plato, Phaedo 89d)
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