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To: blue-duncan
4926BC.

I was joking. I agree with you.

As far as when creatures started to die, I have a radical theory that I don't share with anyone for fear of being stoned. However, one should noticed that in order for God to have told Adam that "In the day you eat the fruit, you shall surely die.", Adam must have know what "dying" meant. Eve, not plopping over when she took a bite (at least not at that moment), probably encouraged Adam to take a bite. (this is all another story)

I believe it is possible that animals and vegetation "dying" could have went on for hundreds, if not thousand of year prior to the fall. The only one immune to this process was Adam and Eve. I don't get into creation discussions because there is no biblical evidence and people tend to be very defensive of their positions. Mine is pure speculation so don't stone me.

14,687 posted on 05/16/2007 12:42:12 PM PDT by HarleyD
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To: HarleyD; blue-duncan
BD When did all creation start to die?
HD: 4926BC

LOL!!! LOL!!! LOL!!!

H. sapiens goes back anout 10 times that far back, HD. Unless, of course, you believe that the devil plants those bones for us to be deceived...LOL!

However, one should noticed that in order for God to have told Adam that "In the day you eat the fruit, you shall surely die.", Adam must have know what "dying" meant

That is a very valid observation, HD! Kind of, like that line in the Lord's prayer "and do not lead us into temptation" [does God lead people into temptation?!?].

And the "day" Adam would die would be 900 years later. Why don't we just call our whole lifetime "a day in the life of ..."?

How would Adam know what dying is?

14,690 posted on 05/16/2007 12:58:33 PM PDT by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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To: HarleyD; blue-duncan
I believe it is possible that animals and vegetation "dying" could have went on for hundreds, if not thousand of year prior to the fall

HD, the animals are exactly the way God made them. They move by necessity and not by free will as we do. So, they could not have corrupted that which God created.

14,693 posted on 05/16/2007 1:02:52 PM PDT by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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