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To: fortheDeclaration
One can have a dead faith and still be saved.

That says it all in a nut shell. You don't have a clue about the Gospel, do you... You claim the Eastern Orthodox are spiritually dead, the Roman Catholics are a cult, and now the trifecta, you can be saved with a dead faith. Go read 1 Cor 13:2 again.

You are fit to be made fun of. Certainly not to be taken seriously. Don't waste my time anymore.

Adios.

14,532 posted on 05/11/2007 10:05:16 PM PDT by jo kus (Humility is present when one debases oneself without being obliged to do so- St.Chrysostom; Phil 2:8)
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To: jo kus
One can have a dead faith and still be saved. That says it all in a nut shell. You don't have a clue about the Gospel, do you... You claim the Eastern Orthodox are spiritually dead, the Roman Catholics are a cult, and now the trifecta, you can be saved with a dead faith. Go read 1 Cor 13:2 again.

Are you deliberately being dishonest or just obtuse?

Did I say one can be saved with a 'dead' faith?

No, I said that one can still be saved even though one has a 'dead faith'.

Thus, one was saved with a live faith and 'born again'.

If that individual doesn't yield to the Holy Spirit (Rom.6), that faith will die and that individual will not produce fruit.

He remains a saved person, however, since he is one with Christ (Eph.5) and sealed by the Holy Spirit (Eph.4:30)

And as 2Tim.2:13 says very clearly, Christ will not reject one who has a 'dead' faith, once that person has received Him as His personal saviour.

As for the Orthodox faith being a dead Church, that is true since they do not preach the correct Gospel of salvation by faith alone in Christ alone.

And that goes for the RCC as well.

Paul placed an 'anathema' on anyone, including an angel from heaven who taught any other Gospel than salvation by grace through faith and not of works.

You are fit to be made fun of. Certainly not to be taken seriously. Don't waste my time anymore.

It is you who are wasting my time with your ignorance of the various views of sanctification.

In all of the posts put forth by the Romanists and Orthodox you will note one thing lacking, the ability to handle scripture.

And like any Cultist, you ignore that which is inconvenient with your religious system, which is supported by a few select proof text, wrested out of context.

If you cannot handle religious issues, than you ought not to trying to put forth the Romanist view, which is a false one.

14,559 posted on 05/13/2007 7:00:53 AM PDT by fortheDeclaration (For what saith the scripture? (Rom.4:3))
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