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To: blue-duncan; HarleyD; topcat54; Alex Murphy; Lee N. Field; Forest Keeper; 1000 silverlings; ...
In my reading the only people pointing to the two world wars as being evidence for the millenial disappointment of postmils are the premils.

Yes, there are wars. The world will always have disputes until Christ returns and history ends.

That does not change the rock-solid fact that a man who has been reborn by God will have a positive effect on his family, his community and his society.

It's only logical. Goodness begets goodness. And it's certainly Scriptural.

"And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.

Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:

Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world." -- Matthew 28:18-20

"And the Lord make you to increase and abound in love one toward another, and toward all men, even as we do toward you:

To the end he may stablish your hearts unblameable in holiness before God, even our Father, at the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ with all his saints." -- 1 Thessalonians 3:12-13

What I really don't understand about the dispensational mindset is why do you think national Israel as a whole will receive increased blessings and prosperity, but those who are led by Jesus Christ won't?

14,529 posted on 05/11/2007 7:41:57 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

“What I really don’t understand about the dispensational mindset is why do you think national Israel as a whole”

I don’t think I have ever said I thought “national” Israel will receive any blessings other than the general providence of God that He bestows on all nations and peoples. I think that during this age He deals with all nations whether Jew or Gentile without discrimination. I believe He is protecting the race from extermination because He has a plan for them when the church is taken out, much like He did in the first and second exiles and the prophecies in Isaiah, but during this age there is no difference in providential blessing.

“In my reading the only people pointing to the two world wars as being evidence for the millenial disappointment of postmils are the premils.”

I believe one of the references to this is in Millard Erickson’s book on eschatology, but I will check out the refrences for you right after I plant the gardens tomorrow.


14,530 posted on 05/11/2007 8:21:50 PM PDT by blue-duncan
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