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To: HarleyD; fortheDeclaration
Actually Peter states that there are some things in Paul's writings that are hard to understand that the unstable and unlearned twist to their own devices. Only those who are unstable or unlearned can't understand what Paul has written. I don't consider FTD either of those, do you?

You consider a person who condemns an entire Christian community as spiritually dead or calling them a cult to be stable and learned? And continues to defend that position?

You are right, you haven't been following the conversation.

Regards

14,488 posted on 05/11/2007 9:27:33 AM PDT by jo kus (Humility is present when one debases oneself without being obliged to do so- St.Chrysostom; Phil 2:8)
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To: jo kus; HarleyD
Actually Peter states that there are some things in Paul's writings that are hard to understand that the unstable and unlearned twist to their own devices. Only those who are unstable or unlearned can't understand what Paul has written. I don't consider FTD either of those, do you?

You consider a person who condemns an entire Christian community as spiritually dead or calling them a cult to be stable and learned? And continues to defend that position? You are right, you haven't been following the conversation.

I called your church spiritually dead because it teaches a false Gospel, mixing faith and works.

Paul stated that if an angel from heaven taught such a doctrine, he should be called accursed.

Moreover, your 'community' has put a curse on everyone who did not accept your views on almost everything at Trent,

CANON IX.-If any one saith, that by faith alone the impious is justified; in such wise as to mean, that nothing else is required to co-operate in order to the obtaining the grace of Justification, and that it is not in any way necessary, that he be prepared and disposed by the movement of his own will; let him be anathema. http://history.hanover.edu/texts/trent/ct06.html ON THE MOST HOLY SACRAMENT OF THE EUCHARIST CANON I.-If any one denieth, that, in the sacrament of the most holy Eucharist, are contained truly, really, and substantially, the body and blood together with the soul and divinity of our Lord Jesus Christ, and consequently the whole Christ; but saith that He is only therein as in a sign, or in figure, or virtue; let him be anathema. http://history.hanover.edu/texts/trent/ct13.html
As for being a cult, I stated that your method of bible interpretation was 'cult like' rejecting clear scripture that undermines your own 'pet' scriptures, just as any cult would do.

So get the facts right.

Regards

Likewise.

14,508 posted on 05/11/2007 3:45:14 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration (For what saith the scripture? (Rom.4:3))
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