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To: kosta50
Frankly I don't know where KJV is getting the "firstborn" in this passage

Some manuscripts include 'ton huion ton prwtotokon'.

-A8

1,445 posted on 12/14/2006 9:34:35 PM PST by adiaireton8 ("There is no greater evil one can suffer than to hate reasonable discourse." - Plato, Phaedo 89d)
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To: adiaireton8
Some manuscripts include 'ton huion ton prwtotokon'.

Which manuscripts?

1,446 posted on 12/14/2006 9:43:33 PM PST by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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To: adiaireton8; Blogger; Kolokotronis
Some manuscripts include 'ton huion ton prwtotokon'

My search shows Byzantine text (based on the altered and unreliable Alexandrian Codex) from 1991 and 1894 Textus Receptus with prwtotokon.

Biblical texts based on the oldest versions of the Bible, the so-called unicals (Sinaiticus and Vaticanus) do not have "firstborn." These are NAS, NIV, Wycliffe, 1881 Westcott-Hort.

Those based on the unreliable and altered Alexandrian Codex do. Apparently the Russian Synodal version, the modern Byzantine text, and KJV have the insertion "firstborn."

The Bible has been altered, added, erased, copied in error, and so on and is anything but a pristine word of God it was originally written. There are so many instances of human tempering with the originals that we cannot even conclude in some cases which versions are true and which are falsifications. Instead, the experts use "probability" and other indirect "evidence" (which hinges on existing information and can change with any new discovery).

Which only makes proof-texing, so dear to Portestants, even more delusional then simple out-of-context phrases are.

Here are some facts about KJV and various Bibles in general:

Something to thnk about next time we text-proof or call someone else dishonest.

Consider also the following facts (same lik) about the Bible in general:


1,452 posted on 12/14/2006 11:14:53 PM PST by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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