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To: Forest Keeper; jo kus; annalex; Kolokotronis; .30Carbine
How would you describe the workings of the two perfect natures when (a) Jesus supernaturally healed, and (b) he prayed to the Father? I always got in trouble when I tried

Our Lord Jesus Christ was the High Priest in His human nature. He prayed a lot, as any priest should. The healing is the divine power that comes in response to our prayers. Since His prayers were always true and perfect prayers, they were always fulfilled. Ours are not, because our motivations are not always true or pure, but selfish and ungreatful.

He prayed to the Father because who else can He pray to? Praying to Himself would be vain, and Christ was the epitome of divine humility.

A true priest is someone in whom you see no person, but only Christ's love. His ego is as transparent as glass, and God's love shines as bright as the sun; in most of us, there is a heavy layer of impurity that obscures most if not all of that light.

Although I am sure Christ childhood would be an inteersting topic, we know next to nothing about Christ's childhood years. Anything other than His ministry, His priesthood, would deter and draw attention to Him in His human nature, and away from His divine nature and mission.

in the Bible we see Christ doing and saying things that appear incompatible with one or the other of the natures. So, for description, I say things like "here we see His human nature". Then I get in trouble

You get in trouble only with Kolokotronis. :) But, that's to be expected: he is a moody, xenophobic Greek (which is why he says God gave Greeks Orthodoxy because they needed it more than anyone else; I disagree) :) At least Kolo is trying to help you; he may be moody, but he cares.

We Serbs are not as nice. We would be eating people for breakfast if God didn't have mercy on our wretched bunch and told the Greeks to give us some of that True Faith, because we needed it more than they did! :)

In the Gospels, Christ is God and High Priest. There is nothing incompatible about either. We can speak of His natures only in the abstract, such as Him dying in His human nature (mindbody as the Greeks call it), subject to corruption (desires, passions, doubts) but His human behavior is always in His priestly role (perfect obedience to God, resistance to corruption and passion through prayer, self-denial, and free will).

14,179 posted on 05/08/2007 6:37:58 AM PDT by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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To: kosta50; jo kus; annalex; Kolokotronis; .30Carbine; Alamo-Girl; Dr. Eckleburg; HarleyD; ...
FK: "How would you describe the workings of the two perfect natures when (a) Jesus supernaturally healed, and (b) he prayed to the Father?"

Our Lord Jesus Christ was the High Priest in His human nature. He prayed a lot, as any priest should. The healing is the divine power that comes in response to our prayers. Since His prayers were always true and perfect prayers, they were always fulfilled. Ours are not, because our motivations are not always true or pure, but selfish and ungrateful.

Well, I have to admit that I never thought of it that way before. So, are you saying that the Divine power within Jesus lay dormant during His physical life, but instead there was an exercise of power separately from the Father because of perfect prayer? I'm really stumped. :) I mean, scripture DOES say that perfect prayer gives perfect results. I have always thought that Jesus' Divine power DID manifest itself through miracles, by His own calling. You raise a very interesting issue.

14,608 posted on 05/15/2007 10:30:46 AM PDT by Forest Keeper (It is a joy to me to know that God had my number, before He created numbers.)
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