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To: kosta50; betty boop
Thank you for keeping me in the loop on this sidebar!

We can never know how things really are – and that is (paradoxically) the only certainty we do know.

Precisely so. That is part of the "observer problem."

On the "if/then"s - I strongly agree with betty boop that they are causal per se, i.e. cause/effect.

Complementarities are more akin to the two sides of a coin. It's not a coin without both sides.

However, if it comes up "heads" when tossed, you might win something in which case the observed event is causal though heads/tails remain complementary.

13,815 posted on 05/02/2007 7:46:58 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Alamo-Girl; betty boop
However, if it comes up "heads" when tossed, you might win something in which case the observed event is causal though heads/tails remain complementary

No, they are actually mutually exclusive (either-or). One wins, the other one loses. They eliminate each other.

If-then is conditionally complementary. They re-informce each other.

13,818 posted on 05/02/2007 7:53:42 AM PDT by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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To: Alamo-Girl; kosta50; hosepipe
Complementarities are more akin to the two sides of a coin. It's not a coin without both sides.

However, if it comes up "heads" when tossed, you might win something in which case the observed event is causal though heads/tails remain complementary.

Beautifully, cogently well-explained, Alamo-Girl!

13,825 posted on 05/02/2007 8:51:04 AM PDT by betty boop ("Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind." -- A. Einstein.)
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